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« on: March 03, 2014, 03:00:34 PM »

I guess the new ditto x2 looper has reverse and half speed. I bet these will be a good,  quiet replacement for a boomerang.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 03:50:07 PM »

Is this superior to the Digitech Jamman and/or the LoopStation?


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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 03:59:45 PM »

But will it do the reverse lead mode?!?!

My Boomerang's Once button is mashed in but I still love it! Besides I don't notice noise running it through my amp's FX loop; hell the comprosser brings the noise.
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 05:48:53 PM »

I actually just bought this pedal about a month ago and find I like it a LOT more than my Boomerang.  Its so much quiter, easier.  A quality pedal, built well, takes up about 1/8th the space, is simple to operate, and really has a great sound quality.  The true bypass is huge. 

Great pedal, i'd recommend it.  Much better than the boomerang in terms of sound and quality.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 06:15:21 PM »

I actually like the Vox delay lab most, but its huge, albeit, less huge than the rang
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 01:24:25 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2014, 11:00:52 PM »

Is this superior to the Digitech Jamman and/or the LoopStation?


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I have the generation one Ditto and love it as a practice looper.  The Digitech Jamman seems to always be a bit noisy for my tastes.  Boss stuff is fine but I've never cared for them.  The Ditto is a very straight forward looper but I would divide between practice vs live loopers.  For live I really think the only really good options are the Boss RC-300 or the Boomerang III.  I feel for live looping you want far more control over the different loop channels.  The Boss RC-30 and RC-20XL both have inputs where you can buy a pedal that will let you cycle through the different loops and its a bit cheaper.

I really like my Ditto generation one and really don't plan to upgrade to the X2 as I don't have a need for the features (yet).
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2014, 08:56:27 AM »

Could you elaborate. What's the difference. The live looping stuff Trey does I'm generally not a fan of. I would like to use it for practice, yes, but I'd also like to use it for a few things live. For example, I do a solo acoustic Tweezer Reprise (I can post a clip if that would help) where I build loops of each part. Main riff, keyboard chords part, little bass bend thing, keyboard build up chords, and then I play the Trey octaves build up live. Would a Ditto work for something like that?


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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2014, 09:23:38 PM »

Could you elaborate. What's the difference. The live looping stuff Trey does I'm generally not a fan of. I would like to use it for practice, yes, but I'd also like to use it for a few things live. For example, I do a solo acoustic Tweezer Reprise (I can post a clip if that would help) where I build loops of each part. Main riff, keyboard chords part, little bass bend thing, keyboard build up chords, and then I play the Trey octaves build up live. Would a Ditto work for something like that?


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I consider a practice looper (not that it can't be used live) is something like the ditto where you layer one track over another.  You can add or remove but its built on the last loop you just recorded. 

The Boss RC-20XL, RC-30, RC-300, Boomerang III and above have separate channels so if you record 5 or 6 different loops you can can in and remove just that one loop.

The advantages if the more expensive ones (Boss RC-300, Boomrang) is that the have individual controls for each of the channels so when playing live you have a lot more control over effecting different parts of the loop.

I think it comes down to cost for most people.  For bedroom jamming or throwing in something simple the Ditto and 129.00 USD is great.  Some people like the Digitech Jamman but I do not prefer it.  With more control over your loops you spend more money so unless looping in a large part of your live playing I would start with something like a Ditto and then decide if you need to move up.

RE: Your Tweezer - I think you would want something with channels (not the ditto or Ditto X2) maybe look at the Boss RC-30 with a Boss foot switch that will let you move between channels.
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2014, 11:29:43 PM »

Could you elaborate. What's the difference. The live looping stuff Trey does I'm generally not a fan of. I would like to use it for practice, yes, but I'd also like to use it for a few things live. For example, I do a solo acoustic Tweezer Reprise (I can post a clip if that would help) where I build loops of each part. Main riff, keyboard chords part, little bass bend thing, keyboard build up chords, and then I play the Trey octaves build up live. Would a Ditto work for something like that?


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I think you could totally get away with using the Ditto live for Tweeprise as long as the timing on the first loop is tight, and you don't want to remove any tracks (other than the one you just recorded).  Let us know how it works for you!

I use a ditto live to help fill out the sound of my trio and get some special effects looping; sorta how trey uses his.  Works great!
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2014, 12:09:19 AM »

Thanks for the help folks. Im still pretty confused. Im totally green when it comes to loopers. Here's the Tweeprise I'm hoping to recreate live. This is recorded with Garageband on an iPad (internal mic) just recording each part and then looping it. The only "live" stuff starts with the Trey octave stuff at 1:31.

https://soundcloud.com/jim-kendrick/tweezer-reprise/s-dvp4h?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=email

I'm only looking at doing open mic kinda things but I'm hoping this could be a cool "set" ender for a solo acoustic thing if a looper would allow it. I don't mind paying a little more for the right pedal.


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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2014, 02:00:43 AM »

Thanks for the help folks. Im still pretty confused. Im totally green when it comes to loopers. Here's the Tweeprise I'm hoping to recreate live. This is recorded with Garageband on an iPad (internal mic) just recording each part and then looping it. The only "live" stuff starts with the Trey octave stuff at 1:31.

https://soundcloud.com/jim-kendrick/tweezer-reprise/s-dvp4h?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=email

I'm only looking at doing open mic kinda things but I'm hoping this could be a cool "set" ender for a solo acoustic thing if a looper would allow it. I don't mind paying a little more for the right pedal.


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After listening to your sample I think a single channel looper would be fine for what you are doing and I think the Ditto X1 or X2 would be great for the price.  But don't be confused! thats what we are here for, to help each other out.  My most basic advice for people is creating your first loop.

When play a 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 loop you start recording on one and click off on the next bar of 1. So 1 - 2 -3 - 4 - 1.  That gives you a full loop without the gap.  Took me a few minutes when I got my first looper.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2014, 09:23:12 AM »

Cool. I probably just need to go to a shop and try 'em both out. Tough to do with 18 month old twins though. Wink Thanks for the help.

One more question, does the regular Ditto have the USB port like the X2? Can it store loops and transfer back and forth to a computer?

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« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2014, 11:31:20 AM »

The regular Ditto does have a USB jack for updates (lol) and sending loops back and forth.

EDIT: It does have the USB jack but ive never used it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2014, 01:41:38 PM »

When I was originally checking out loopers, I was really interested in the boomerang III until I saw the jamman stereo. It really has a ton of features, loop iphone clips, and save on the fly without having to setup your computer.
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