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Title: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 12, 2010, 07:07:46 PM
Hello everyone, My name is Eric.  I'm an engineer from Akron, OH.  I've been a Trey phan since 1998.  It quickly shifted my style of music from acoustic rock to jam band style.  So little by little I made strides to get me to a happy place in my tone.  Mind you this will all sound meager and some of it sinful to the snobs but it's where i'm at (especially after being a busy dad to 2 kids recently).

Strings: DR MT-10
Pickup: Duncan 59 in bridge; Sustainiac driver/pickup in neck. If you are not familiar with the Sustainiac you absolutely must check it out.  It's how I cheat on real infinite sustain. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pu4KCH6b3Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pu4KCH6b)
Guitar: Peavey Wolfgang.  It's the 90 version.  It's built like a tank and has a sweet neck.  I bought it on a whim because the saleman said it had great sustain.  I do love it still for a solidbody.
Wah: Crybaby Hendrix Signature model.  I modified the pedal with various resistors and especially the Whipple halo inductor which is bad ass.  Also and ICAR 100k pot made a huge improvement.  By the way I am great friends with Whipple and I just did all the engineering for his latest pcb board.  Sounds incredible.
TS: Goudie FX 808+.  This was my first screamer.  It's actually pretty cool, just not a silver analogman so of course it's different.  Anyway it was in my budget at the time.
TS#2: Analogman Silver TS9.  Funny thing, the first time i played it i was not sure i liked it but now i use it all the time.  I was coming of of a very clean phase in my playing.  TBC




Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 12, 2010, 07:21:34 PM
Continued...
Tube preamp: Seymour Duncan SFX-03.  I need SOMETHING with real tubes so i got this nice little preamp with crunch and heavy overdrive and bypass.  It's great for us budget dudes.  It gives me very convincing amp overdrive.  I kick in the second channel when i am ripping a lush, creamy solo.
Compressor: Boss CS-3.  Please don't shoot me.  I bought this way back in the day and it's been in and out of the rig many times since i have a love hate relationship with it.  Well for now it's in because it's serving as the Ross wantabee.  It's not terrible actually but Boss just makes me cringe like Ford made me cringe in the 80's:)
Digital Workstation: Digitech GNX4.  Okay maybe i can be forgiven here because i really just wanted a whammy right, but then i figured for a couple extra bucks i could get this entire unit which has hundreds of effects, amps, onboard 8 track recording, drums, blah blah.  So it is digital of course, but i really only us it for the whammy, delay, reverb, some sweet square wave modulators, and one special trick of mine.  Since i don't have a hollowbody guitar, i mix in about 20 percent acoustic amp simulation.  Hey, say what you will but it gives me a timbre of a hollowbody.
Looper: Line 6 DL4.  I bought it because it could do 14 seconds of looping....hey in 1999 that was a long time dude.  (I know the rang was around then but not in the budget).
Amp:  Fender Princeton Chorus.   I KNOW IT'S SOLID STATE!  Sue me.  I bought it when i purchased my acoustic electric even before the Wolfgang.  And i never saved up for a real tube amp.  Trust me, I know the difference.  If it's any consolation, this amp is one of the best solid state amps, at least it's just supremely clean and that has served me well.

So that's my rig but it's always under construction.  I think an Ibanez Artcore semi hollow body is in the plans for Christmas.  Again, baby steps for my "hobby" (not career).  Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 17, 2010, 08:48:32 PM
Ok, are you ready to hear the rig of the amature???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuM4loGs0BE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuM4loGs0BE)

Enjoy

or

Destroy (me)
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: raisingfreen on September 17, 2010, 09:55:32 PM
Interesting youtube videos. Love the sustainiac vid. It's so bad its cool, if you know what I mean.

The princeton in the first clip did sound decent with what you had going on, kind of elevator music jam.

Dont give up the dream man.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 17, 2010, 10:23:08 PM
Thanks freen. Funny thing about the clip above...no amp used! It's direct into the PA. What you are hearing is a special amp modeler I made from the Digitech unit (semi hollowish) and mostly the tube pre amp
pedal (SFX-03).  Had I used my amp, it would have sounded about the same because the solid state would just be very clean too.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 18, 2010, 11:20:32 PM
Yo, my father in law is letting me borrow his 1974 Fender twin for a month while I hunt a serious amp down. I'm stoked!
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: sour d on September 18, 2010, 11:26:55 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on September 18, 2010, 11:20:32 PM
Yo, my father in law is letting me borrow his 1974 Fender twin for a month while I hunt a serious amp down. I'm stoked!
Nice! I have a mid seventies twin that I love. Plenty loud. I like plugging a strat straight into it.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on December 07, 2010, 10:37:40 AM
Check out a little sample i recorded recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32rX3hCXyM8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32rX3hCXyM8)
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 16, 2011, 10:08:37 AM
Here is a video with my Blues Jr. with the Cannabis Rex.  The Digitech unit is dampening some of the amps dynamics but hey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5MOqF8Dorg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5MOqF8Dorg)
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Walker done done on February 16, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
Sounds good man.  You liking that new speaker, eh?
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 16, 2011, 10:53:12 AM
Quote from: Walker done done on February 16, 2011, 10:37:23 AM
Sounds good man.  You liking that new speaker, eh?

Thanks Walker.  I like the speaker indeed.  With the stock speaker, the amp is super bright and ice pick harsh so I had to have treble on zero for sure, even then it was harsh.  Now I can have treble at 12oclock no problem. 
It's all going to get way better in the next week or so once I install the Billm mods (better tone stack, new caps, power stiffening, power bias, presence pot, etc).  All for $50 from Bill. 
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on February 16, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
I really liked your tone on the Blues Jr. video dude!!  Which one of your drives are you using there?  Or are you using both?
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 16, 2011, 01:13:59 PM
Quote from: ColForbin on February 16, 2011, 12:29:36 PM
I really liked your tone on the Blues Jr. video dude!!  Which one of your drives are you using there?  Or are you using both?

Thanks ColForbin.  I've got both screamers on, the silver at about 12 o'clock drive and the 808+ at about 9 o'clock drive.  I even have the SFX-03 on the rhythm channel which adds a bit more tube break up after the compressor. 

Let's call today's article: HOW TO SOUND LIKE TREY FOR CHEAPSKATES!

Part#1:
Here is my secret weapon which I struggle to continue to use because it's a digital unit: the GNX4.  I've been trying not to use it due to any possible tone sucking.  Even though I don't really hear any sucking going on with it, I'm still trying to "keep it real" by most players standards ("keep it analog").  I'm always torn with this unit because it is so darn versatile.  It's got just about every effect out there including the whammy stuff.  All kinds of outputs, inputs, 8 track digital recorder, drums, hours of looping, blah blah.  Craig Anderton did a whole book on this thing and I think he is a respectable dude.  He claims there are top notch components in there giving you super converting and whatnot.  Anyway I do now know that looking back into my past music clips that indeed my tone is obviously digital so I don't really use the silly amps and cabinets and cheesy effects on it.  BUT BACK TO THE SECRET WEAPON!!

Ok, one day it occurred to me (and I do believe this is completely an original thought of mine that noone else has attempted) that I can save a custom amp profile in one of the empty slots of the GNX4.  Now most users of this unit know that you can save hybrid amp by taking 2 different amps and setting the percentage of each amp and thus making a new "preset" if you will.  So my brilliant idea was that I needed to get some hollow body feel into this tone.  So I choose to go with 80% Blackface and 20% of...what is it....oh yeah...ACOUSTIC!  Ok maybe I'm blowing this out of proportion but once I started playing with this new preset that I carefully dialed in, you can really hear an acoustic element in the tone.  FABULOUS!  Maybe in the clip above you kind of heard some hollow, woody tone but were baffled about how this occurred?

So for a poor dude who is stuck with a solid body for now, this is how I'm getting a cheating timber of hollowness.  I really dig it considering it cost me no money to obtain this "new tone", only my time to dial it in.

Part #2:
Also I'm a big cheater in the sustain department too right?  Yep, you know me as the Sustainiac dude, but hey I guess the proof is in the sound clip.  Why do I love my Sustainiac?  Again, I DON'T HAVE A HOLLOW BODY so I need some feedback, even if it's manufactured by my neck driver/pickup.  Hey, it does not change your tone one ounce.  It's only driving your stings with pulses and my PAF 59 in the bridge is receiving the same string vibration that it always sees, only with much more undying energy.  Also the Sustainiac is 100 repeatable and controllable so I don't have to play loud or stand at certain angles to the speaker to get the desired sustain.  All this for several hundred dollars.

In conclusion:  Yes I know what I "should be doing" versus what I actually "am doing".  It's all done with good taste however.  I'm glad some of you dudes liked my clip.  The moral of the story is be resourceful and constantly evaluate what you have and how can you possibly reconfigure things that might yield better results.  Now go experiment like a mad scientist!

Peace, Eric Bernhardt
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 17, 2011, 08:31:43 PM
Oh man I just reached a new level of Trey tone!  I put the gain on my silver at max and the attack on the compressor at zero. I took the gnx4 out if the equation by the way. Any how my attack now has the incredible quack when I smack the strings. Also way more harmonics. I'm getting real sustain too!  All around an upgrade.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: sour d on February 17, 2011, 10:32:42 PM
You have something there with that sustainiac. I watched your thing on that. Pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: picture_of_nectar on February 18, 2011, 02:18:04 AM
Sweet demo. Just saw this for the first time!

You make that Sustaniac thing sount pretty nice! I still don't understand what it is from the video, a digital pickup? It's amazing what you can do with digital pedals. For me, the fun of hollowbodies...even cheaper ones, is that the controlled sustain isn't allways gauranteed just from taping the string. It's something you gotta work out of the instrument. With different pedal combinations and positioning to the amp, the variables change and keep you on your toes. That challenge of making it hum and not shriek or die off is a fun balancing act. Makes me feel like I'm riding a wave of sound or something, and could wipe out at any second...and often do...

I like your tone for sure. I'm also a Blues Jr fan, mine has a Vintage 30 in it which I really like.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 18, 2011, 06:38:09 AM
Thanks man!  Here is the instructional video I made for the Sustaniac.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pu4KCH6b3Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pu4KCH6b3Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

I made this mostly because noone else has made one with most of the details along with demonstrating the modes of operation. It's not a pedal as you'll see:).

Oh and I do want to ride that wave you speak of some day...some day.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: picture_of_nectar on February 18, 2011, 12:23:44 PM
I helped my friend buy an ibanez hollowboy for $400. Actually ha really nice tone and sustain.  Not out of reach foranybody I don't think.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 18, 2011, 12:44:56 PM
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on February 18, 2011, 12:23:44 PM
I helped my friend buy an ibanez hollowboy for $400. Actually ha really nice tone and sustain.  Not out of reach foranybody I don't think.

Yep that's more realistic for my budget.  After I get my amp all modded out, I'll start to look into such a guitar.  I've been torn on whether to sell my wolfgang to raise money for a new guitar or just save up to add a guitar.

One other thing I'm messing around with is designing my own hollow body (just the body) on my 3D Cad sofware and then having a rapid prototype built (SLA) if you are familiar with the process.  I can throw on a Warmoth neck and the appropriate electronics.  It would be fun and it might sound shitty or amazing.  Who knows.  All I know is I've got these designs in my head and I want them to come to life.  As a design engineer, it would be a shame if I never bring them to life.  Just spending time documenting all the critical dimensions of a guitar right now so that it all assembles perfectly the first time.

Thanks for all your continued help man.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: picture_of_nectar on February 18, 2011, 02:27:53 PM
This is the Ibanez Semi Hollow I picked up. It had a nice setup and upgraded D'marzio pickups. My buddy looooves it.

http://www.massstreetmusic.com/store/show_item/4198-Ibanez-AGS83B

I plugged it into my Bls Jr for a bit and was really impressed. Also I like the styling compared to alot of the other Artcore seriesn models.
Title: Re: Rig of the amature: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 18, 2011, 03:18:34 PM
It's pretty classy looking.  I like a good amount of the Artcore series very much and that's probably what I'll end up getting.  Thanks for being so helful.

I played an Artcore through a BJ and thats what kick started this whole transformation of gear lately.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on March 05, 2011, 05:28:56 PM
I'm pleased to share some videos of my Billm mods on the Blues Jr. If you hear clipping, it's the iPhone microphone, not the amp. Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUPw1wvgi8s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUPw1wvgi8s)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXl8Bpgynss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXl8Bpgynss)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRfAlQbihY&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIRfAlQbihY&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on March 22, 2011, 07:04:07 PM
First Soundcloud recording hot off the press.
http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/screaming-riff (http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/screaming-riff)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on March 24, 2011, 07:34:00 AM
Man, I just want to say I think you have a great thing going with your tone.  I don't think it's just one thing, but a combination of everything you got going on.  I watched the you tube clips and the sound cloud recording and I really dig it.

How do you like the soundcloud app?  Is it a free app?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on March 24, 2011, 07:50:58 AM
Quote from: ColForbin on March 24, 2011, 07:34:00 AM
Man, I just want to say I think you have a great thing going with your tone.  I don't think it's just one thing, but a combination of everything you got going on.  I watched the you tube clips and the sound cloud recording and I really dig it.

How do you like the soundcloud app?  Is it a free app?

Soundcloud has a free app for the iphone; simple to use.  I think I got the idea from PON.

Wow man I appreciate it!!!  ;D Thanks.  I like to think I've made SOME progress.  Poster didn't give me such a great review as you did; I almost jumped in the lake.  :P  (Serioulsly though he is helping me up my game which I am appreciative for sure).  I think I was just trying to squeeze out all my tricks, which are admitidly choppy and non cohesive.  Remember kids, I came onto this forum knowing very little about good tone and I've made some strides.  I'm enjoying the journey.  If you think my playing is Phishy that's probably because I listen to live Phish for hours each day.  I'm trying to diversify currently, using Pandora radio.  It's opening my eyes to so many great artists.

Be yourself.  Enjoy playing.  Push yourself.  Connect with your audience.  Have a nice day.

Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on March 30, 2011, 08:29:55 PM
I swapped V1 from 12ax7 to 12ay7 today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB1XfXe5IdY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB1XfXe5IdY)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 28, 2011, 03:49:04 PM
I put a new output transformer in the Blues Jr. Also added a clean boost channel to add 10 db any time. Adds before output tubes as not to distort preamp signal. Also swapped mid cap out for smaller value as to get more mids. I haven't cranked it up yet, but even playing quietly it's sweet.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on July 16, 2011, 04:56:00 PM
So the biggest change to my rig just transpired in the past couple of weeks.  I sold most of my pedals and my Wolfgang and brought in the A.O. hollow body guitar.  That is not an easy decision to make, but it was the right decision.  I got so attached to that gear because I'm a sentimental person and I was in my comfort zone.  So now I'm the Caterpillar breaking out of the cocoon.  New skin, new body, and with wings!  Stripped of the components that gravity can pull on.

So with just an few pedals and an incredibly strong source or colorful guitar shapes at my fingertips and sounds coming cleanly out of my highly modded amp, I start my new quest.  This is the next quantum.  It feels good.  I took some really good advice from some very experienced folks on this forum.  If it wasn't for this forum, I'd be sucking digital, solid-state, tone sucking ass still!  My advice...is to take advice.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on July 24, 2011, 12:08:59 PM
Here is the AO in action.  It's just down and dirty (or should i say just clean).  Better demos to come. 

http://youtu.be/CYmWLDxjRuk (http://youtu.be/CYmWLDxjRuk)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: phishlips on July 24, 2011, 06:23:18 PM
sounds good happy.  can't wait to hear some more.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: picture_of_nectar on July 25, 2011, 11:08:23 AM
Happy for you Happyorange, I think you made a really good decision purchasing that guitar used. She looks like a real quality piece, and it sounds really nice through your Jr. With the next vid you should shoot some close ups for us.

Welcome to the world of organic sustain!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 01, 2011, 08:32:10 PM
Just a little more AO for you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNjujSIzMRc&feature=youtube_gdata_player (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNjujSIzMRc&feature=youtube_gdata_player)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: manicstarseed on September 01, 2011, 09:28:22 PM
Nice sound. I need me a hollow body. Your playing is tasteful and varied.
Love the backing track. How do you do that?

Incoming Kid for a finisher... Over the top. I loved it.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 01, 2011, 09:39:55 PM
Thanks Manic. The backing track is just a crappy keyboard that has built in rhythm function. It can play simple jam progressions to any key I set as tonic. I also try to play backing tracks from iPhone apps through the PA.
My two boys are always in the mix down in the man cave. :)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on September 01, 2011, 11:43:54 PM
Holy Happyorange amateur rig/professional guitar sustain and feedback!!!  Seeing that video you just posted really makes me even more impatient in my wait on my AO guitar.   
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: jadirusso on September 02, 2011, 08:21:33 AM
Nice clip Orange.. not too much longer and I'll be making my own AO howl. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 02, 2011, 08:35:29 AM
Joe and Wilson, I'm pretty excited for you both.  I'll be glad to see you guys tearing it up, hopefully very soon.

FYI dudes that was the silver screamer on 12 volts. 

Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on October 04, 2011, 07:56:34 AM
Last night I added 2 mods to the Blues Jr.

1. Sparkle control.  This adds a high end tone cap and pot to reduce the highest frequencies.  The BJ III is the worst culprit and needs it.  With this control you can go from zero to "more" reduction than all of the BJ's.  Good thing to have especially if those ultra highs bother you.

2. Preamp plate voltage increase.  By just swapping out some resistors, you can bring the BJ voltages up, closer to a Fender Blackface circuit. This allows for more headroom as well.

I get to actually crank it up tonight so we will see how much better things are.  I'm really happy with my amp.  It just keeps elevating.  I don't care that it's just a BJ and it's a pcb board; I'm using it as my proving grounds and R&D amp.  After studying a Deluxe Reverb blackface circuit and comparing it to the BJ circuit, I can now identify all the components I want to change.  This lets me get close to a blackface with some simple changes.

The next step will be to actually build a point to point DR.  It will happen eventually, but I'm enjoying the journey.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on December 15, 2011, 11:16:29 AM
Hey AO added some nice testimonial and video that I provided.  This is cool!
http://www.aoguitars.com/uncategorized/eric-bernhardt-talks-about-035-2 (http://www.aoguitars.com/uncategorized/eric-bernhardt-talks-about-035-2)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on December 29, 2011, 09:49:38 PM
Just a little porn for ya.
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/ae8cb0c8.jpg)
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/4adc5865.jpg)
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/1e1ad249.jpg)
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/e07da07a.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on December 31, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
glad your enjoying it!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Walker done done on January 02, 2012, 02:16:50 PM
Quote from: Poster on December 31, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
glad your enjoying it!

My my, looks who's back!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 11, 2012, 01:06:17 PM
Made this audio for Joe then decided to put it on YouTube with some picks of the A.O.
http://youtu.be/oZm8RwOmc0s (http://youtu.be/oZm8RwOmc0s)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 11, 2012, 03:46:11 PM
Still think having a copper box or something for those toggles would be nice for practical stuff, and do you use a 10inch speaker or a 12?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 11, 2012, 03:48:53 PM
I used a 12.  Tell me more about this copper box for toggles.  I'm clueless.

Sidenote: just bought an older cmatmods 2 knob compressor for $60 to hold me over till I get my Tight Squeeze/Bone Squeeze.  8)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on January 11, 2012, 03:55:14 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 11, 2012, 03:48:53 PM
I used a 12.  Tell me more about this copper box for toggles.  I'm clueless.

Sidenote: just bought an older cmatmods 2 knob compressor for $60 to hold me over till I get my Tight Squeeze/Bone Squeeze.  8)

Nice! I want to check out an older Dyna-Comp
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on January 11, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 11, 2012, 03:48:53 PM

Sidenote: just bought an older cmatmods 2 knob compressor for $60 to hold me over till I get my Tight Squeeze/Bone Squeeze.  8)

I've been thinking about picking up one of those as a backup for my Ross....please, do share once you get it!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 17, 2012, 07:05:29 PM
Yep cmatmods compressor is sweet. Sounds best between 10-12 o'clock on sustain. Gets me that much closer. Need to get a sample for you soon.  8)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on January 17, 2012, 10:19:52 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 17, 2012, 07:05:29 PM
Yep cmatmods compressor is sweet. Sounds best between 10-12 o'clock on sustain. Gets me that much closer. Need to get a sample for you soon.  8)

Does it do the Ross squish? I bought one and it's on it's way, super excited! Getting back into the comp world.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 17, 2012, 10:26:36 PM
It squishes plenty if you turn sustain knob up. I like to just have a good seasoning of compression. I would say adding the compressor after getting all of the other elements correct is the way to go.  I suppose it doesn't matter, as long as you get there eventually.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on January 17, 2012, 11:16:05 PM
How do you think it compares with your rack compressor? I know you were a big fan of the amount of control you had over the sound with all the parameters, so what made you switch to the two-knob-camp?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 18, 2012, 06:39:20 AM
Quote from: the_great_lemon on January 17, 2012, 11:16:05 PM
How do you think it compares with your rack compressor? I know you were a big fan of the amount of control you had over the sound with all the parameters, so what made you switch to the two-knob-camp?
I suppose that the pedal is already set to do what it needs to do. All the other parameters I used to tweak are set in stone so it's a good thing that sounds good.  ;D Not to say I wouldn't mind messing with them but if I know I want a Ross performance, well that's what I'm getting. Also I now have everything in a compact pedal, not a rack unit laying out in the open. Also I think the pedal handles a guitar signal better than the rack.  What I mean is the compressor threshold in this Ross has much more range than my rack unit.  You can have an infinite compression ratio but it doesn't mean shit if you can't lower the threshold low enough.

The other set in stone parameter is the attack.  On a real Ross the spec says 4 ms.  I'm assuming Chad matched that attack.  From all of my tweaking on my old pedal, I found indeed that the minimal attack is best for the Trey style.  If you start letting the signal have more attack, the volume spikes can be too much.  The low attack helps keep everything "smooth" between all configurations of OD pedals on and off and also your guitar volume knob.  Remember attack is the time that your true volume is coming through before compression starts, so if you have at least 3 different volumes (clean, OD1, OD2, etc.) then all that is going to come through as being inconsistent.  Stick with the low attack.

I really only miss the decibel input output meters on my rack. Those show how much compression was going on in actual decibles. No big deal.

Oh and I miss the noise gate.  I'll look at getting a noise gate pedal eventually.  
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on January 18, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
I have considered the noise gate route before, but every time I've used one something is just missing.....I don't know, maybe it's just me  :-\
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 18, 2012, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: the_great_lemon on January 18, 2012, 03:39:10 PM
I have considered the noise gate route before, but every time I've used one something is just missing.....I don't know, maybe it's just me  :-\
My success was putting the gate right before the compressor (after last OD) then with your OD(s) on and your guitar volume all the way on, but do not play any notes (mute the strings), you adjust the gate to just barely kill the hum.  A slow attack is good too.  Also you OD pedals shouldn't be too loud by nature with no signal or else you are probably not going to succeed.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on January 18, 2012, 03:53:43 PM
I actually just started to crank the volumes on my ODs yesterday, and i'm really loving it.  I will certainly look into using a friends noise gate on my stuff, just like happy suggested ^
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 18, 2012, 07:03:52 PM
Ok the compressor is in this one but so is a little bit of everything. It's not great, but a sample.
http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/just-a-test (http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/just-a-test)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on January 18, 2012, 11:28:34 PM
Very nice recording Happy O!  Great tone, and I hear 2 specific licks/ideas in there that totally show Trey's influence:

1:15 - whole tone scale usage and resolution to the tonic.

1:50 - pentatonic pull off riffs ala Bouncin' Around the Room and many other phish songs.

A couple questions/critiques (however you see it) because I think you can still get some more sustain and overtones happening with your gear!  You are just using one AM silver ts9 right?  Where are your settings?  Especially because your previous post stating, "I actually just started to crank the volumes on my ODs yesterday."  I know I can use my cleaner ts-9 or ts-808 set with gain @ 9-10 o'clock, tone anywhere between 9 & 1 (dependent on the room and which pedal I'm using), and level dimed (if not at least 80% - usually for rehearsal), and I get some great sustain (and those glassy overtones that develop out of it) with only the one pedal on along with my compressor, and I'm not hearing it from that recording.  Also was your guitar volume all the way up?  Where did you have your compressor's level and sustain set?  And as far as your Blues Jr., was the "fat" switch on?  And where were your master and volume set on the amp? 

Just to give you an idea, and yes it may be "a little louder," but common settings for me are: ts9 gain @ 10 o'clock, tone 11, and level maxed, Ross comp or Keeley 2knob - sustain 9:30/10ish o'clock and level 1, and when using my Blues Jr. Humboldt, Volume @ #4, Master @ #6, and fat switch is on. 

Maybe its the iphone mic and small speakers on my macbook that totally aren't getting the tone to my ears, and I'm way off base with my comments, and if so, I am sorry, but I think with some more tweaking with all the gear you have, it can get even better!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on January 19, 2012, 12:58:14 AM
Great demo man! What do you use for looping? Where were your settings at on your Flashback?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 19, 2012, 07:36:39 AM
Thanks guys and especially Wilson for your in depth review.  Yes I'm just using one AM silver.  See pics below for settings.  You are reading the great lemon's (i think) words about cranking the OD's not mine (i can see how you got confused).  My guitar volume was varied throughout recording.  I try to change it up along with the pickup selector.  The fat switch was not on (but i use it sometimes).  Your settings are not far from mine. ;D  

I must restate that this performance is kind of just blah actually and I had to keep everything quiet in the house so you aren't hearing balls to the walls.  No good demonstration of good sustain.  Trust me with any more volume it's there.  I like sharing my demos with you guys. I hope it helps you and inspires you.

Not sure if I bumped the amp knobs when moving it for picture.  One thing you'll freak out on is the low setting of the mids on the amp.  Well I've studied the circuit and truely it's more of a second stage volume and not really a mid control.  I've looked at the frequency graphs.  All that knob does is raises and lowers the entire volume between V1 and V2.  So it actually creates overdrive to V2.  To clean my amp up I have it down here.  When I play loud it goes up too.  Oh by the way the Volume knob controls gain between V1a and V1b, right in the middle of the first tube.  So really you have 3 volume controls on a BJ which has the twin stack mod.  Look that one up on Billm site.  I know of only Mesa Boogie and a few others that truely allow for mid humps, and it's not in any Fenders.  :P

Wilson my V2 has a 12AT7 in it.

Tom see Dynamic delay setting on TC.  My looping (backing track) is really a keyboard that has all types of style presets with rhythm and progressions.

Lately I've been sticking to the dual hard panned offset mics through my mixer into my iphone.  If any setting on my gear is not clear from the pics, just ask and I'll confirm.

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Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on January 19, 2012, 11:31:01 AM
Sounds real nice, nice mic setup too btw! Have you tried plugging your tuner into the stereo out on the Flashback?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 19, 2012, 11:34:10 AM
Quote from: tomasmaclennan on January 19, 2012, 11:31:01 AM
Sounds real nice, nice mic setup too btw! Have you tried plugging your tuner into the stereo out on the Flashback?
I haven't.  I think that would split the signal especially in loop mode.  Have you tried loop mode in stereo?  It sends the loop to one side and your current signal to the other.  Thanks for the suggestion however.  Also my tuner isn't in my chain.  I've been tuning to the keyboard lately by ear.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 19, 2012, 03:35:06 PM
If you dont get rid of those shitty cables, Iam going to pull my fucking hair out.

*edit: I have a spool of george l cable, but cant find my foam block of plugs. Iam going to find you some cables dude.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 19, 2012, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: Poster on January 19, 2012, 03:35:06 PM
If you dont get rid of those shitty cables, Iam going to pull my fucking hair out.

*edit: I have a spool of george l cable, but cant find my foam block of plugs. Iam going to find you some cables dude.
You don't like the ones i have now that i bought from Hong Kong, 6 for 1 dollar?  That's about how much they were.  Yes it's terrible.  See I know you care about my tone and I appreciate that very much.  Help a brother out!  Seriously I'm all about doing that soon.  Thanks Mr. Nutbag.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 19, 2012, 04:23:43 PM
no problem, just shot you a text.  :P
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on January 20, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
Poster-   A while back I remember you mentioning how/why you use some different patch cables for certain reasons between different pedals.  And I think part of it had to do with your tubescreamer(s)?  Anyway, I've got all planet waves cables on my boards now (I know, probably not the best choice, but the price was right and they're better than the cheap fenders and random cables I was using), with the exception of between my 2 tubescreamers because I didn't like the way the planet waves L shaped plug separated the 2 further apart .  Is a george L a good choice to use in between the 2 tube screamers, or is there something better?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on January 20, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
I'm actually going to be abandoning my george l cables soon, to move to Lava cables.  I have serious reliability issues with my george l's, they sound great but they can die on you over time.  I've heard from a few trusted sources that lava is the way to go. 
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 20, 2012, 08:24:02 AM
Quote from: ColForbin on January 20, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
I'm actually going to be abandoning my george l cables soon, to move to Lava cables.  I have serious reliability issues with my george l's, they sound great but they can die on you over time.  I've heard from a few trusted sources that lava is the way to go. 
Oh crap really?  I was about to drop some cash just now on some George L.  I think Poster swears by them.  Col did you assemble them yourself?  I'm sure there could be variation in assembly from person to person.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on January 20, 2012, 09:11:06 AM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 20, 2012, 08:24:02 AM
Quote from: ColForbin on January 20, 2012, 07:59:01 AM
I'm actually going to be abandoning my george l cables soon, to move to Lava cables.  I have serious reliability issues with my george l's, they sound great but they can die on you over time.  I've heard from a few trusted sources that lava is the way to go. 
Oh crap really?  I was about to drop some cash just now on some George L.  I think Poster swears by them.  Col did you assemble them yourself?  I'm sure there could be variation in assembly from person to person.

I've heard from unrelated sources that lava is the way to go. I currently have some DIY Mogamis on my board from TGP but as soon as I get the tax return back its lava time. The construction videos make the cables look as easy as pie to make.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 20, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
Ha, if your geroge cables fail its because you didnt make them properly. Ive done hundreds of gig with them and they never ever fail. What ever Iam sure youll say iam wrong.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 20, 2012, 11:42:11 AM
Quote from: IamWILSON on January 20, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
Poster-   A while back I remember you mentioning how/why you use some different patch cables for certain reasons between different pedals.  And I think part of it had to do with your tubescreamer(s)?  Anyway, I've got all planet waves cables on my boards now (I know, probably not the best choice, but the price was right and they're better than the cheap fenders and random cables I was using), with the exception of between my 2 tubescreamers because I didn't like the way the planet waves L shaped plug separated the 2 further apart .  Is a george L a good choice to use in between the 2 tube screamers, or is there something better?

Good post, I had missed it until now!

Yeah, I was using some monster cables last year, and a couple failed in front of 500 people at the Young Ave Deli. Ended up having to bypass the whole board and play direct. Real shitty when the opening band was actually tasty, and at sound check I had no issues. So yeah, Ill never use a monster patch cable again... I experimented with a variety of cables. Thick george L, skinny, george L, evidence audio, mogami gold, lava, etc. I ended up using some "flat right angle jacks" for my wah wah, and ts9. They are made out of mogami wire and said flat jacks. Otherwise, I prefer the skinny george L cables, with a mix of right angle, and straight tips. When I was touring with a huge rack system, the george L's were great for getting the patchbay all clean with extra slack for the drawers to open. And yup, didnt have a failure after 3 months on the road that time. My rig now is much much much smaller, and I still have no problems with my george L's or my mogamis. When demod together Id say the mogami gold/george l sounded about the same, whereas the others where subtely different, and I either didnt dig the build quality, design, or how the plugs set on my board.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on January 20, 2012, 01:14:43 PM
Quote from: Poster on January 20, 2012, 11:24:51 AM
Ha, if your geroge cables fail its because you didnt make them properly. Ive done hundreds of gig with them and they never ever fail. What ever Iam sure youll say iam wrong.

It's entirely possible that I'm making them wrong, although I'm a little unclear as to how you actually go about making them wrong.  When I replace and make a new one, I can see where the hot connection was made at one point.  But again, I'm not claiming that I make cables flawlessly.  But it's also flawed logic to assume that just because you've never had an issue, that issues aren't possible....just sayin'.  But my issue may be related to my apparent lack of "cable-making prowess".

All I know is I have an issue, I find the culprit through testing, I make a new one, and I don't have an issue anymore.  But in an effort to maybe point the finger at myself first, what do you use to make your cut?  I use wire cutters, I thought that would do the trick but maybe it's pinching it to much?

Edit to add:

If I can sort out that I am making them wrong, and don't have to spend money replacing them, I will be very grateful for sure.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 20, 2012, 02:58:55 PM
I make all sorts of cables. Not just solderless. In my experience, never use wire clipper pliers unless you have to. I use some clippers made just for cutting copper cable. They have yellow handles, about 4 inches long, and are really fucking sharp. It has a little block to rest it on a flat surface. The key is as flat and sharp a cut as possible. Your trying to maximize how much of the internal fibers are connecting to the plug sleeve. So its 2 flat round contact points. Sometimes I would heat shrink around the old really long ones just to keep the screw down, but soon realized you could just paint elmers glue onto the threads. So you need to keep constant tension on the cable when you setting the screw. You also dont need to screw it down too tight. The thread locking cow glue is easy to break if you need to swap the plug, but again, using that method, you never have to. So cut it flat, put it in the plug, hold with one hand tight, screw in screw (and for piece of mind, put a dab of elmors glue on the threads before you start this process). Repeat on the other end of cable, let sit for 2 hours to dry, test on practice amp, yank on the each end a little during testing to make sure your good. The glue isnt really needed, but at least you know nothing can really move. For say a George L guitar length cable, just add large tube heatshrink around the glued screw binding it to the cable, add techflex wrap if you want, double the shrink over the wrap, they sound great. Your going to have to cut the fucking thing in half to break it
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on January 20, 2012, 03:11:39 PM
Cool man, good info.  I'll look into some clippers and remake my cables before doing a switch.  I have a lot of cable left over, so it should be easy peasy.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: aoguitars on January 20, 2012, 03:24:57 PM
Having wired a ton of boards and patchbays, I wouldn't use anything but Lava Cable if you're going with the DIY solderless kits. IMO, the George Ls' method of grounding just doesn't inspire confidence the way that the Lavas do. You're actually using the whole braided sleeve with the Lava, not just a tiny point like on the Ls. And the cable jackets are slightly thicker as well, which I like. The George Ls are fine if you're wiring something up and leaving them alone, as you're never stressing the connection. If you're doing anything where you'll be plugging/unplugging the cables more than a few times (as we all do when tweaking our boards), Lava is the way to go. Plus, the plugs are the smallest out there, so you can get pedals closer together.

And I was just with a forum member whose board was wired with George Ls, and there was a few times that the signal was lost due to a faulty plug/ground. In my experience, they eventually fail.

Just thought I'd throw that out there!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Poster on January 20, 2012, 03:31:49 PM
Perhaps they didnt make them properly?  ;D Here are some mogami's that are similar to the ones I like. These plugs are great and very small http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Mogami-2524-patch-effects-cable-Low-Profile-/330588279438?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item4cf898d28e#ht_500wt_780

but again, a properly made george l cable is fantastic.  I just watched the george l demo before I tried making mine. Its on youtube, and linked on the george l website.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: Poster on January 19, 2012, 03:35:06 PM
If you dont get rid of those shitty cables, Iam going to pull my fucking hair out.

*edit: I have a spool of george l cable, but cant find my foam block of plugs. Iam going to find you some cables dude.

Tahdah!!!
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/13dc5c9e.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: manicstarseed on January 29, 2012, 02:04:12 PM
soooo...

Did Poster come through or did you break down and  git 'er done right?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: manicstarseed on January 29, 2012, 02:04:12 PM
soooo...

Did Poster come through or did you break down and  git 'er done right?
Both!  I bought a bunch off him and constructed these myself. I'm sure I'm better off now than my Chinese cables.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 09:33:06 AM
Quote from: Poster on January 19, 2012, 03:35:06 PM
If you dont get rid of those shitty cables, Iam going to pull my fucking hair out.

*edit: I have a spool of george l cable, but cant find my foam block of plugs. Iam going to find you some cables dude.

Tahdah!!!
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/13dc5c9e.jpg)

DUDE - I THINK YOU LOST A TS9!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 02:12:21 PM
I've never had a second TS-9 but I want one badly.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 02:14:09 PM
Lol, yea, they aren't too rare ;)

(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z342/Jon_Weingarden/IMAG0120.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 02:20:32 PM
Well my guitar is rare and that's where all the money went my friend. I'm slowly saving up money to rebuild.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 02:21:56 PM
Yea, that is a sweet guitar!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Brian27 on January 29, 2012, 02:27:48 PM
Is the retro sonic comp good?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 02:38:31 PM
I like it so far. This year I have tried an Analogman Comprossor, Barber Tone Press and Keeley 4 Knob (as far as Ross clones).

The AM was the darkest and most compressed, IIRC it has the least amount of headroom, but plenty of boost.

The Keeley was a little less dark, less compressed which makes it easier to dial in on the lower end, it had significantly more headroom especially with the clipping knob, but I could barely get to unity volume even with the clipping maxed. With more volume, the Keeley would be my favorite.

The TP didn't do much of anything for me, takes up more real estate and I didn't care for the blend knob. It also got gritty pretty quickly.

The Retro Sonic is voiced a little sweeter in the upper midrange, it also has a treble boost switch, which I don't use, but I could see it being useful for a dark rig, where a Ross would completely kill the top end. It also has a more mild onset of sustain so it is easier to dial in. There is plenty of volume and it seems to have slightly more headroom than the AM. The attack is a little different than the others, while most Ross clones seem to have the grey ross preset attack at 12 on the knob, the RS seems to be more similar to that at about 10 o'clock.

PS - check out ovnilabs.com - great comp reviews, though by a bass player so he stopped covering Ross clones since most roll off too much bass for him.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Brian27 on January 29, 2012, 02:41:01 PM
True Bypass?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 02:44:24 PM
Heady how can you say that Ross clones have Ross attack time at 12 o'clock?  The Ross has a 4ms attack time. That's pretty damn quick. That would make anything under 12 o'clock useless. I doubt that's how those clones are set up.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 02:51:42 PM
Yea it is true bypass.

As for the attack - I have never played an actual Ross, but Analogman says his clone matches the stock Ross at 12 o'clock on the attack knob, which leaves plenty of sweep on each side. I found the RS to have more attack, so I backed it down a bit.

From Analogman's site: We came out with the ATTACK control in 2001, which one of our COMPetitors finally added in 2005 after years of saying it was not needed. But seems he only added half of an attack control- it only goes one way from the stock setting. Ours is able to ADD or SUBTRACT from the stock setting, which we put in the middle of the range.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Brian27 on January 29, 2012, 02:57:37 PM
I have never liked any kind of Attack or Threshhold on any kind of comp. If i did have a comp with attack id leave it at 12:00. I have had a Dynacomp for so long now and im ready to give a Retro Sonic a try since i dont have enough for a Ross. JHS i think makes a Modded Dynacomp called a Dynaross and that looks kinda interesting. Anyways anything True Bypass would be better then a Dynacomp
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 03:06:02 PM
OK Heady I read you. I saw that once as well. I think Analogman doesn't know what he is talking about unless he is offering 0-4ms of attack as something that's going to be noticeable. It's not. But hey I bet folks eat that shit up and say they have to have it. I'm just saying its a scam. You can't have a negative attack time either. Thanks for supporting your claim. If you can't tell I love all the details.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 03:17:40 PM
Lol, Happy's a cynic!

To be honest, I don't know much about technical details, I know less than 4ms is a very short time (and I didn't know that was the spec until now), but I have not idea how that would effect initial attack. I also trust Analogmike, he is a great guy in every experience I have had with him and definitely seems to know what he is talking about.

I think the Retro Sonic is great for the price - I got mine off Ebay a couple weeks ago. I generally like enough attack to give some dynamic, but it can be a thin line between too smooth and continuous snapping/popping.

JHS has a mixed reputation. I have had two experiences with them and neither were ideal: I got a Morning Glory and the soldering was pretty crappy - two wires on the footswitch had come loose in the mail before I even got it so I had to resolder it myself; I sent them a pedal to mod, they said it would be a little tricky but not problem, after 2.5 months, they said they couldn't do it and the tech shocked himself messing with the pedal - they did a few changes that got half way to what I wanted, covered the pedal in JHS stickers and sent it back (I sold the pedal later that week).
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on January 29, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 03:06:02 PM
OK Heady I read you. I saw that once as well. I think Analogman doesn't know what he is talking about unless he is offering 0-4ms of attack as something that's going to be noticeable. It's not. But hey I bet folks eat that shit up and say they have to have it. I'm just saying its a scam. You can't have a negative attack time either. Thanks for supporting your claim. If you can't tell I love all the details.
I agree with happy on this!  Not to discredit anything that Heady is saying though.  But if 12 o'clock is 4ms attack, then that mean the knob offers a range of 0-8ms of attack time/delay, whatever?  Is that really much of a difference?  

Another thing about Analogman, I have much discontent for anyone who openly attacks and questions their competitors and needs to explain why he is better than others.... kinda like a friggin politician who shouldn't be trusted.  I
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 03:30:45 PM
Lol, I sense a bit of animosity toward analogman on this site - people don't like his silver, his business tactics. Though I do see what your saying about comparing to competitors, but I also suspect that he is upset that he put a lot of work into retro-engineering the compressor, then to have other builders copy that effort.

PS - no worries about discrediting me! I am just relying on what AM said, who I personally think is a good guy/builder.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on January 29, 2012, 03:46:52 PM
I don't really have animosity towards him.  I just question his character.  Regardless, I mentioned in that other thread about getting the Keeley modded ts-9s and compressor back in '02.  At that time I had no idea who analogman was.  It wasn't like I chose Keeley over him.  And this was also before Trey was using any of his gear, so my guess is there wasn't many musicians into the music we are into that knew about AM at that time.  And I don't think others on this site have a problem with AM, as many probably have the silver ts9.  From day one of 2.0, I didn't like Trey's tone as much, and I found out after the fact that he was using the AM pedals.  So I feel like that is part of the equation.  And as far as if anyone copied him or whoever pioneered the clone of the Ross, that doesn't matter to me at all.  What matters to me is who is honestly providing a solid product that makes me happy about my tone.  And besides, wasn't the Ross comp a copy of the Dyna comp anyway?  And if AM is upset about someone else doing the same work he is doing I hope he's never been involved in writing a song that uses an chord progression similar to what has been done before. 

Shit!  Now I sound like I have animosity.  Anyway, I hope this is read with a grain of salt as well as the idea that it's author has a dry sense of humor, and a touch of cynicism.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on January 29, 2012, 04:00:26 PM
I don't mind AM at all. Just saying he might be sugar coating a specification.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on January 29, 2012, 04:06:18 PM
Yea, I like the Silver's personally, more clarity than the modern TS9. I never really liked the Keeley ones, his mod seems to change the voice a bit in the upper mids, at least to my ears. I have thought about trying some other TS versions, but I am trying to stay away from the buy/sell thing for a bit. I was thinking about doing the Jack Deville Click-Less TB mod on the two I have now.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 10, 2012, 10:53:55 AM
I got this new old 80s tube screamer from Wilson. It's the furthest to the right. I freaking love it.
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/6b8ce24d.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 10, 2012, 01:54:53 PM
Sweet! A second TS really adds to the board IMO.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on February 11, 2012, 03:30:59 PM
I'm glad your diggin' the pedal Happy!  So as somebody who now has an original and a silver.  What do you hear as the differences between the two.  Maybe you can post a video or audio comparison of the 2.  It might be hard with the straight plugs you have between them, but if you got an old rt. angle to rt. angle 6" cable laying around, you can actually have the pedals close enough to stomp at the same time, thus switching one off while switching the other on.  That is what I do with my 2 pedals, I usually refer to my cleaner one as my "always on pedal," but I do sometimes switch to only the dirtier one, and then add the cleaner one back in as an extra boost later on in a solo.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 11, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
I'll do that when I have a chance. All I can say is that the original is inspiring and every spot is a sweet spot:)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on February 11, 2012, 07:41:37 PM
OK here is a quick comparison.  Sorry it's not comprehensive.
http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/ts9-tube-screamer-silver-vs (http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/ts9-tube-screamer-silver-vs)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 11, 2012, 08:07:06 PM
Sounds good!

The tone is slightly different, the Silver being a little brighter, and the texture of the overdrive is slightly different as well.

Both sounded good, but I liked the 80's on Tweezer more.

I think the milder hump of the 808 circuit might lends itself to chord work.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on February 12, 2012, 03:09:34 PM
Thanks for doing the comparison Happy!  I've always wanted to hear something like that.  I'll offer my take on what my ears heard:

During chord playing, they both sounded very similar, but when riffing and hearing one note plucked at a time as they blend together I hear this little fizzy or fuzzy sound coming from the vintage ts-9 that just makes it sound a little fuller, warmer, or maybe bigger is the word.  I really like that element when the volume knob was tapered back to clean up the effect as I think it retained more body.  It really stood out to me when you did the tweezer riff. 

But my favorite part, when listening with headphones, is right after you say, "that's it for now," and you can hear one of your boys sigh.....  epic!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: phishlips on February 13, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
I liked the Silver better.  Great demo.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on February 13, 2012, 09:07:39 PM
You're rig sounds aweeeesssooommmmeee(seriously!!!) Happy!  Great demo; I slightly prefered the silver just because I found it a bit less fuzzy compared to the vintage one.  it makes me curious to hear how they would stack. 

Btw, im looking into getting those billm mods before any more pedals....I'll keep yall posted if I follow through
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 13, 2012, 09:25:44 PM
On a Blues Junior, I think a Speaker, Tube and OT change does more than the BillM basic mods. YMMV.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on February 13, 2012, 09:34:30 PM
Speaker-wise, I'm thinking about an Eminence GB12. Also, recently I had my guitar tech replace any noisy tubes he found. He ended up replacing the power tubes and 2 of the 3 12AX7's.  That's an interesting thought about the OT though, I'll be sure to look into that.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 13, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
Yea, I have tried both the BillM low-profile and the Merc Mags - slightly different, no preference personally between the two. I like Eminence Speakers, I have a Red Fang and have had two Swamp Thangs, but I don't think I've ever tried the GB.

The BillM mods makes a difference, the Basic just seems to un-skip the corners that Fender skimped on, but some of his other mods are sound pretty cool too - particularly switching the output tubes and adding a presence knob (those are the only two others I remember).
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 02, 2012, 07:38:22 AM
Hey dudes, I have some birthday cash and am trying to choose wisely.  Here is my rig as of today:

A.O. Hollowbody>Modded JHS-1 Hendrix Wah>TS9 early 80's>TS9 Analogman Silver>Wilson Effects Haze Deluxe>cmatmods compressor>Fish N Chips Eq>Flashback Delay>Fender Blues Jr. III w/ Billm mods & Cannabis Rex

Feel free to influence my decision on the next holy piece:

-Whammy II or V if it proves to track well
-Boomerang (original or III) or another quality looper that can recall a stored loop.  My flashback erases the loop when stopped.
-Voodoo Labs Pedal Power+
-TC Electronic Nova Repeater
-Other suggestions

Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on May 02, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
Happy,

What are you using to power your effects currently?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 02, 2012, 10:27:57 AM
Quote from: ColForbin on May 02, 2012, 10:23:27 AM
Happy,

What are you using to power your effects currently?

Good question.  It's SKB PS-25.  Here is a web picture I found for reference.
(https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQGrjmGGcJBMjaerYHEzwyQvJ0VAmf5sAzJq1OgfibbL2iPFyS7)

I've had it forever and it's ok.  Not sure if it's isolated power per plug or daisy chained.  I'm sure I'm due for much better.  Can't say I have power issues but I can say I am maxed out on outlets on the strip.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: ColForbin on May 02, 2012, 11:07:49 AM
Well, if you feel you're due and are looking for suggestions, I would look at a pedal power, or the BBE supa charger.  But new toys are fun too....are you thinking nova repeater just for the tap tempo??
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: picture_of_nectar on May 02, 2012, 11:18:01 AM
FYI the Rang III can't store loops. Otherwise it's a great pedal.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 02, 2012, 11:23:46 AM
Yes on the tap tempo and also because i can't delay and loop at the same time with my Flashback hence another pedal.

As for Rang III it does retain a loop, or should i say pause a loop.  I'm just comparing to the Flashback where when you turn off the loop, it's never coming back.  Does that make sense?  

Thanks dudes.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: the_great_lemon on May 02, 2012, 03:27:42 PM
I would like to second the motion of getting an isolated outlet power supply. I used to have the same model SKB board...I'm pretty sure  it was daisy chained.  When I needed more rooooom I stepped up to a PT-2 and a pp2+ and almost all of the excessive humming I didn't realize was happening, vanished. Well worth the price in my book!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 03, 2012, 08:22:28 AM
Oh hell I keep getting tempted in all directions here.  Now I'm looking at some floor monitors.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-15-Floor-Monitors-Stage-Studio-PA-DJ-Speakers-/380430104000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589366b5c0#ht_2307wt_1183 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/PAIR-15-Floor-Monitors-Stage-Studio-PA-DJ-Speakers-/380430104000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589366b5c0#ht_2307wt_1183)

I have some really crappy ones right now.  I really like to submerse myself in the sound bubble and for my upcoming gig I want to have some good monitor action. 
I do think I should explore the iso power supply too.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on May 03, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
In addition to the floor monitors, having a quiet solid pedalboard makes setup really easy and troubleshooting failures is easier as well.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 05, 2012, 04:58:03 PM
Ok I just got these 12" monitors. I've moved my amp from in front to my back. I'm simulating a stage performance which should prove useful for my upcoming gig. Making the sound bubble. Oh I have two mics on the amp panned hard as usual at different offsets from the grill. So monitors are stereo panned as a result.
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/a37cce51.jpg)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: IamWILSON on May 05, 2012, 09:33:25 PM
Quote from: the_great_lemon on May 02, 2012, 03:27:42 PM
I would like to second the motion of getting an isolated outlet power supply. I used to have the same model SKB board...I'm pretty sure  it was daisy chained.  When I needed more rooooom I stepped up to a PT-2 and a pp2+ and almost all of the excessive humming I didn't realize was happening, vanished. Well worth the price in my book!
exact. same. experience. 4 me....to poop on!

Haha, all kidding aside, switching from cheap daisychained skb board to the PT-2 and PP2+ was a large step up in achieving better tone.  And a much more reliable setup too.  That SKB PS-25 was always sliding around stage floors!

Cute doggie Happy!
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 05, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
Cool. I'll make it my next purchase.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on May 06, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
I bet that sound bubble is great, what mics do you use?
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on May 06, 2012, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: tomasmaclennan on May 06, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
I bet that sound bubble is great, what mics do you use?
I was using Audio Technica and now EV mics. They are dynamic cardioids. They sound just fine. I'm sure some condenser mics would rule but that's down the road. Yep the bubble is where it's at. Sustain without ridiculous volume.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on June 17, 2012, 04:01:55 PM
For giggles I added more capacitance to the sweep range cap in my cry baby. It was already .022 (Hendrix stock value). Most cry babies have .010. I went to .042 by putting some caps in parallel. I like it. More bass and less treble. Almost like a volume pedal on the very low end. No harsh top end. Likes OD better. I added little proto sockets to that part of the PCB so I can play around with values.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 17, 2012, 04:03:32 PM
Nice, I always like your thoughts etc on wah. I have been thinking I might need a different wah - it hasn't gotten switched on too often lately.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on June 17, 2012, 04:05:59 PM
Exactly! Now mine is tolerable. Send me your wah and I'll add those sockets and give you caps and resistors to play with. Redeem that pedal:)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 17, 2012, 04:15:41 PM
Yea - thanks man! Maybe I will, I have to decide if it is a good platform to begin with - it is a Budwah, kinda more midrangy. I think the low-end gets lost in the mix a bit, but I need to put some time in with it again to recall why I haven't been turning it on as often.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on November 08, 2012, 08:37:32 AM
I just got a Jamman Stereo.  It's cool enough.  I did notice diminished treble in the tone.  It's like my tone knob is around 5.  But I think I'm ok with that because I keep my treble on zero on my amp anyway because I just want as much mids as possible.  Heck maybe i'll get a bypass looper eventually, but seriously it's really minuet.  Anyway I think sourd has one and spoke highly of the robustness.  I will say there is no noise added to the signal.  I like that you can store different loops and just toggle between them using the foot up and down buttons.  So you can record a verse and a chorus in separate loops.  Just switch to the next loop anytime ahead of time and it will wait for that first loop to finish and seamlessly go into the next loop; doesn't skip a beat.
The rhythm accompaniment is limited to like 9 samples and they are like metronome or like boom-chuck sounds; nothing elaborate.  But hell it's totally fine for messing around and practicing jams.  It's cool because when you lay down your first loop, the drums automatically quantize to the duration of your loop and subdivide perfectly.  So it's doing some calculations to make the rhythm match your beat.  That means you don't need to manually set up the drums.  You can always tap tempo ahead of time if you want.
So there is more to play with, but that is the jest of it.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: fulltone1989 on November 13, 2012, 12:09:17 AM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on November 08, 2012, 08:37:32 AM
I just got a Jamman Stereo.  It's cool enough.  I did notice diminished treble in the tone.  It's like my tone knob is around 5.  But I think I'm ok with that because I keep my treble on zero on my amp anyway because I just want as much mids as possible.  Heck maybe i'll get a bypass looper eventually, but seriously it's really minuet.  Anyway I think sourd has one and spoke highly of the robustness.  I will say there is no noise added to the signal.  I like that you can store different loops and just toggle between them using the foot up and down buttons.  So you can record a verse and a chorus in separate loops.  Just switch to the next loop anytime ahead of time and it will wait for that first loop to finish and seamlessly go into the next loop; doesn't skip a beat.
The rhythm accompaniment is limited to like 9 samples and they are like metronome or like boom-chuck sounds; nothing elaborate.  But hell it's totally fine for messing around and practicing jams.  It's cool because when you lay down your first loop, the drums automatically quantize to the duration of your loop and subdivide perfectly.  So it's doing some calculations to make the rhythm match your beat.  That means you don't need to manually set up the drums.  You can always tap tempo ahead of time if you want.
So there is more to play with, but that is the jest of it.

Jamman Stereo is great. I think it's equally as easy as the Boomerang to use live.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Stecks on November 19, 2012, 07:27:18 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on June 17, 2012, 04:03:32 PM
Nice, I always like your thoughts etc on wah. I have been thinking I might need a different wah - it hasn't gotten switched on too often lately.

I love my VOX...  can't go wrong...
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Stecks on November 19, 2012, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on May 06, 2012, 09:13:47 PM
Quote from: tomasmaclennan on May 06, 2012, 08:19:40 PM
I bet that sound bubble is great, what mics do you use?
I was using Audio Technica and now EV mics. They are dynamic cardioids. They sound just fine. I'm sure some condenser mics would rule but that's down the road. Yep the bubble is where it's at. Sustain without ridiculous volume.

I have an AKG C2000B phantom powered through an old Behringer EURORACK MX602A..  The AKG condenser is out of production now, I'm sure there are much better ones, but I like mine, I've had it for about 10 years or so (at least!)... think it was about 3 bills when I first got it.  Probably better ones out there for much less now.
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on June 01, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Just jamming in the basement today.
https://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/2014-06-01-basement-jam (https://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/2014-06-01-basement-jam)
Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 02, 2014, 05:55:31 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on June 01, 2014, 06:44:50 PM
Just jamming in the basement today.
https://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/2014-06-01-basement-jam (https://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/2014-06-01-basement-jam)


Sounds good brother!
Is that the CAE wah? Red or Yellow?

Title: Re: Rig of the amateur: happyorange
Post by: Happyorange27 on June 02, 2014, 08:15:53 PM
Thanks. Yellow.