Hey scott how far do you boost up the output on your whammy II, I picked one up the other day and frequently have to change the sound to make it softer or louder, it humms a little when you boost it up it seems. Any Suggestions?
Quote from: \"Stiles12\"Hey scott how far do you boost up the output on your whammy II, I picked one up the other day and frequently have to change the sound to make it softer or louder, it humms a little when you boost it up it seems. Any Suggestions?
The whammy is pretty noisy no matter what you do. Trey had the same problem. Trey asked Brian how he could clean up the noise and Brian told him there was no way becasue the whammy and boomerang are just cheaply made effects. Trey then asked Brian to put the whammy and boomerang in the loop with the CAE Super Tremolo. This way when you aren't using these effects they are taken out of the signal chain.
I have a loop that I can turn on and off and in this loop I have the whammy 2 > Headrush Delay > Boomerang. To set the boost on the whammy I first turn the loop off and strum. Then I turn the loop and and strum. I then adjust the gain on the whammy until the volume is the exact same when the loop is on or off. If you don't have a loop you might have a little harder time getting all your settings worked out. You might want to invest into a switch that has a loop or 2 just to take it out of the signal chain when it's not in use. Here is a link. I had these guys make me a box with 4 loops and a Bypass switch. http://www.loop-master.com/index.php?cPath=21&osCsid=235eb2228319f88d516b2d8b8175e7a8
Hope this helps.
There is something wrong with my Whammy. It's like the treadle can't go all the way down, so whenever the effect is on, my pitch goes up unless I hold it down with my foot. Any help??
Anyone????
Quote from: \"ColForbin\"There is something wrong with my Whammy. It's like the treadle can't go all the way down, so whenever the effect is on, my pitch goes up unless I hold it down with my foot. Any help??
That sux! Take it to your local guitar shop and they may be able to open it up and figure out what is wrong. Good luck!
Quote from: Stiles12 on July 09, 2007, 10:22:46 AM
Hey scott how far do you boost up the output on your whammy II, I picked one up the other day and frequently have to change the sound to make it softer or louder, it humms a little when you boost it up it seems. Any Suggestions?
I just picked one up at the local store for $200. I have the same issue with mine- although i haven't had much time to mess around with it. But my amp makes a very noticeable hiss/hum even when the whammy is bypassed. I noticed when i turn the level down on it, the hiss/hum is less intense but it's still there....did you figure anything out about this that could help it?
1. You need to calibrate the pedal (i think every time you turn it on). I don't have one but that's what I heard. Look up the manual.
2. Yeah these pedals are noisy. You need to get a true bypass looper box to bypass this pedal when you don't want the effect in your chain.
OK I never owned one but I might soon. What if i just leave it on all the time. Will it be noisy?
Quote from: Happyorange27 on August 05, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
OK I never owned one but I might soon. What if i just leave it on all the time. Will it be noisy?
That's practically what Trey has been doing lately and I hear no noise, BUT that's Trey and his incredible equipment and incredible sound guy (Paul). He really loves that Whammy, it's always on lately!
I do think you will have some noise. With mine I can tell it's on just by the way the buffer in it acts. It really stands out and has a way about it. I really love it too. Just don't use it on every song. If it broke I would find a replacement asap.
Thanks dude!
Quote from: Helping Friendly on August 05, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on August 05, 2013, 04:13:43 PM
OK I never owned one but I might soon. What if i just leave it on all the time. Will it be noisy?
That's practically what Trey has been doing lately and I hear no noise, BUT that's Trey and his incredible equipment and incredible sound guy (Paul). He really loves that Whammy, it's always on lately!
I do think you will have some noise. With mine I can tell it's on just by the way the buffer in it acts. It really stands out and has a way about it. I really love it too. Just don't use it on every song. If it broke I would find a replacement asap.
Interesting.
I had a II for awhile but sold it and bought a V, which was awesome. I may get another down the line.
Quote from: fulltone1989 on August 05, 2013, 10:18:06 PM
I had a II for awhile but sold it and bought a V, which was awesome. I may get another down the line.
When mine is on it's not super noisy, but you can definitely tell that it's on. You can tweak the little volume knob on the back, which helps with the noise also. Make sure your input and output jacks are nice and clean too. Mine was noisy as a mofo when I first got it, but after a couple shots of deoxit and BAM!! No noise....well a lot less noise anyway. I might actually replace both the jacks and see what that does.
Hey Fulltone, how is that V? I thought about getting one myself. I used to have a IV, and sucked a donkeys balls big time!! I've heard samples of the V on youtube, and it sounded pretty sweet and smooth. I especially like that chord function. I was also gonna try out one of those Molten midi things. Seems like you can get some pretty cool sounds with that little gadget.
The way to calibrate a whammy2 is when you first power it up, rock the treadle all the way forward and all the way back a few times. Getting the input level knob set right will help with the noise.
Quote from: TheSeeker on August 06, 2013, 01:02:48 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on August 05, 2013, 10:18:06 PM
I had a II for awhile but sold it and bought a V, which was awesome. I may get another down the line.
When mine is on it's not super noisy, but you can definitely tell that it's on. You can tweak the little volume knob on the back, which helps with the noise also. Make sure your input and output jacks are nice and clean too. Mine was noisy as a mofo when I first got it, but after a couple shots of deoxit and BAM!! No noise....well a lot less noise anyway. I might actually replace both the jacks and see what that does.
Hey Fulltone, how is that V? I thought about getting one myself. I used to have a IV, and sucked a donkeys balls big time!! I've heard samples of the V on youtube, and it sounded pretty sweet and smooth. I especially like that chord function. I was also gonna try out one of those Molten midi things. Seems like you can get some pretty cool sounds with that little gadget.
The V was very sweet, did the whale call thing easy. The only thing I really missed was not being able to select presets with my feet. If I get it again it will definitely have a MIDI selector, I was thinking about the MIDI mouse from Tech 21. The V didn't get super though which was a bit of a bummer and part of the magic of the II. Don't get me wrong though the Classic mode did get glitchy. just not significantly. Solid construction though.
When I was getting it repaired, I asked about the metal jacks and the repair place said it was impossible because there was nothing to ground the jack to because the whole pedal was basically plastic. Mine also had a supposed True bypass mod but I don't know how he did it.
Quote from: TheSeeker on August 06, 2013, 01:02:48 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on August 05, 2013, 10:18:06 PM
I had a II for awhile but sold it and bought a V, which was awesome. I may get another down the line.
When mine is on it's not super noisy, but you can definitely tell that it's on. You can tweak the little volume knob on the back, which helps with the noise also. Make sure your input and output jacks are nice and clean too. Mine was noisy as a mofo when I first got it, but after a couple shots of deoxit and BAM!! No noise....well a lot less noise anyway. I might actually replace both the jacks and see what that does.
Hey Fulltone, how is that V? I thought about getting one myself. I used to have a IV, and sucked a donkeys balls big time!! I've heard samples of the V on youtube, and it sounded pretty sweet and smooth. I especially like that chord function. I was also gonna try out one of those Molten midi things. Seems like you can get some pretty cool sounds with that little gadget.
I just got a V, and it's excellent. The harmonizer is a lotta fun, the whammy's tracking is great, and the polyphonic mode works a lot better than I thought it would. The only complaint I have is the detune/chorus sounds kinda bad in 'deep' mode.
Thanks everyone. I did play a V and thought it was a fine pedal.
In the words of Momma Cosby, "Issa sweet ol thaaaaaaang."
I figured out how to True Bypass the pedal, if anyone wants to true bypass it themselves. Not too bad.
i want to know!
The whammy 2 is the pedal if you're going for trey tone. If there's any one pedal that's trey in a box imo its the whammy 2, at least his effects in one box.
I wouldn't so much describe it as noisy as much as i consider it a tone sucker.
You have to have it on its own bypass loop to really use it and sound good, it really does suck tone when its not on.
I use a loopmaster 6 loop true-bypass looper so its completely out of my signal unless im using it, which is a lot.
Something i don't read much about is the detune setting, i think trey uses this a lot more than people think. Just turned on it gives a watery, almost chorus, almost leslie like tone. Very effective, especially when using tube screamer and a compressor thru it.
Great pedal, imo you gotta get the 2, without the ability to toggle between modes with my foot it would not be nearly as versatile. I don't understand why they went back to the other design instead of improving the 2 with its foot toggles. Dont make no sense yo
Quote from: jenkins on February 04, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
The whammy 2 is the pedal if you're going for trey tone. If there's any one pedal that's trey in a box imo its the whammy 2, at least his effects in one box.
I wouldn't so much describe it as noisy as much as i consider it a tone sucker.
You have to have it on its own bypass loop to really use it and sound good, it really does suck tone when its not on.
I use a loopmaster 6 loop true-bypass looper so its completely out of my signal unless im using it, which is a lot.
Something i don't read much about is the detune setting, i think trey uses this a lot more than people think. Just turned on it gives a watery, almost chorus, almost leslie like tone. Very effective, especially when using tube screamer and a compressor thru it.
Great pedal, imo you gotta get the 2, without the ability to toggle between modes with my foot it would not be nearly as versatile. I don't understand why they went back to the other design instead of improving the 2 with its foot toggles. Dont make no sense yo
I have to agree about the II and the foot switch capabilities, seems like a really cool feature than nobody else was doing at the time. If I ever incorporate the V back into my rig Im gonna get a midimouse or disaster control midi switcher to control the settings.
Digitech just reissued the bass whammy, maybe we'll see a II reissue in the future?
I had a II with a TB switch but I was always afraid of using it live because of the dinky plastic jacks, I just can't trust them. I tried installing metal jacks but there is no place to ground them as the chassis is plastic also. Sweet pedal. I liked the 5 just as much as the II though. That things gonna be a classic too in 10 years.
Quote from: Buffered on February 04, 2014, 08:54:44 AM
Quote from: jenkins on February 04, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
The whammy 2 is the pedal if you're going for trey tone. If there's any one pedal that's trey in a box imo its the whammy 2, at least his effects in one box.
I wouldn't so much describe it as noisy as much as i consider it a tone sucker.
You have to have it on its own bypass loop to really use it and sound good, it really does suck tone when its not on.
I use a loopmaster 6 loop true-bypass looper so its completely out of my signal unless im using it, which is a lot.
Something i don't read much about is the detune setting, i think trey uses this a lot more than people think. Just turned on it gives a watery, almost chorus, almost leslie like tone. Very effective, especially when using tube screamer and a compressor thru it.
Great pedal, imo you gotta get the 2, without the ability to toggle between modes with my foot it would not be nearly as versatile. I don't understand why they went back to the other design instead of improving the 2 with its foot toggles. Dont make no sense yo
I have to agree about the II and the foot switch capabilities, seems like a really cool feature than nobody else was doing at the time. If I ever incorporate the V back into my rig Im gonna get a midimouse or disaster control midi switcher to control the settings.
Digitech just reissued the bass whammy, maybe we'll see a II reissue in the future?
I had a II with a TB switch but I was always afraid of using it live because of the dinky plastic jacks, I just can't trust them. I tried installing metal jacks but there is no place to ground them as the chassis is plastic also. Sweet pedal. I liked the 5 just as much as the II though. That things gonna be a classic too in 10 years.
Honestly, I prefer the V with a MIDI switcher in the MIDI in. It's just so much better (polyphonic mode!).
So on the V with the midi footswitch you can't I'll go between settings like you can on the two?
if that's the case i would be seriously considering going out and buying one
Quote from: jenkins on February 07, 2014, 02:36:30 AM
So on the V with the midi footswitch you can't I'll go between settings like you can on the two?
if that's the case i would be seriously considering going out and buying one
What the midi does is program a response. If you had a 8 MIDI footswitch controller you could assign one buttom to each Whammy function but with it may be difficult to set it identical to the II as the II can set two functions to bounce between really fast. Sorry about the runon sentence.
Quote from: jenkins on February 04, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
The whammy 2 is the pedal if you're going for trey tone. If there's any one pedal that's trey in a box imo its the whammy 2, at least his effects in one box.
With the exception of The Whale, what are some examples of Trey using the Whammy. I've never tried one so I'm not sure all it can do. I know it has a pitch shifter/harmonizer feature and a detune/whammy effect, obviously. But it seems the former is rare in Trey's playing. And the latter, I can think of some big "bends," for lack of a better word, but it seems this could be accomplished just as easily with slides up the neck. Does Trey use the whammy for that effect? Also, some of his slow build ups up the neck sound as though they may be accomplished using the Whammy. Am I right? Is this the extent of his use of this pedal?
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Quote from: Jkendrick on February 07, 2014, 12:31:49 PM
Quote from: jenkins on February 04, 2014, 01:25:30 AM
The whammy 2 is the pedal if you're going for trey tone. If there's any one pedal that's trey in a box imo its the whammy 2, at least his effects in one box.
With the exception of The Whale, what are some examples of Trey using the Whammy. I've never tried one so I'm not sure all it can do. I know it has a pitch shifter/harmonizer feature and a detune/whammy effect, obviously. But it seems the former is rare in Trey's playing. And the latter, I can think of some big "bends," for lack of a better word, but it seems this could be accomplished just as easily with slides up the neck. Does Trey use the whammy for that effect? Also, some of his slow build ups up the neck sound as though they may be accomplished using the Whammy. Am I right? Is this the extent of his use of this pedal?
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In particular 1998 and 2003 shows I hear the octave down setting or the octave down + dry tone often used. I ran an envelope filter after the octave down and it was mighty funky but it sounded like my speaker at the time was having trouble dealing with the low frequencies the Whammy produced. Sometimes he incorporated the RMC3 and TS9 for that sludgey "drugged out" sound. Check out the Live in Brooklyn Free Jam for an example. Couldn't think of a better way to describe it. He also uses the octave +1 or +2 for the funk siren, I actually did a youtube video on how to do it with just a delay and Whammy- check it out! Simple or Reba jams that start really soft would also use that same octave up setting. I think those are the extent of his uses, at least to my ears.
FWIW I do the whale call easily enough by just sliding my fretting hand down a whole step and back up rapidly or just up a whole step, although it's not an approximation bc you can hear the individual frets a little. That's 90% of why I used the Whammy.
In the Clifford Ball 2001, at the end or beginning I forget but it sounds like a space ship taking off and I think that's Trey saving a note into the Rang and then using the Whammy to seamlessly change the pitch but in order to do that he'd need an effects router so go Rang > Whammy whereas the Whammy is usually first in his chain. For all I know it could be page. In the summer of 09 I saw the lightsaber thing at the end of First Tubes and to get the "clash" sound of a saber I think it was an interval change (Perfect 5th sounds nice) causing it. His tone was also heavily distorted so it could just be the volume pedal creating that "tone" but he was definitely stepping on something(s). I guess not knowing exactly how is part of the magic! The scariest part for me is seeing him swing a Languedoc around playing swords with his microphone stand though.
So an example of the build up thing Trey does often can be heard at about 11:15 on the A Live One Stash. Is that Whammy in there or is that all fingers. I hear a tiny bit of wah at one point I think.
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Are the slide ups during the Bundle of Joy section of the 6/11/94 Red Rocks Fluffhead Whammy or "organic" slides?
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