Guitars have been associated with Languedoc for probably a hundred years. I believe the second largest guitar festival in the world is held in Languedoc. Paul doesn't have an exclusive for the name...
There is actually no such thing as a Languedoc guitar... just a Languedoc headstock. The offset body was actually copied from from the Starcaster. When Paul worked for the Time Guitar Co they copied a few things from the Starcaster even naming one of their guitars the Timecaster.
I am not calling mine a copy of a Languedoc anymore even though many people do but have named it an Ollandoc. Mine now all have USA made wiring harnesses by www.bcsguitars.com and Seymour Duncan makes my pickups in there custom shop. The big market is all the regular Joe's who can't afford a $7,000 to $10,000 guitar and even if they could an individual could not build one for all of them. People have been tickled pink with my new models ... well they never complained much about my first models either.
Hi Olson.
What was the motivation for this post, if you don't mind me asking?
I can't help but write out my reaction. And I've written and re-written it several times because I'm genuinely interested, but feel I need to be honest to my reaction. So I'm going to respond clearly and concisely as possible at risk of seeming confrontational or overly direct.
I can only assume this post was motivated by frustration from catching flack for copying Paul's guitar design. I can understand your frustration and your entitled to feeling that way, but frankly I think your post came off very negatively and some of the points you made don't seem logical to me. I think this completely overshadowed the good points you made.
I think your rationalizing, or making pseudological, or fallacious arguments that sound logical, and projecting your behaviors onto Paul.
For example, you rationalize calling your guitar a Languedoc copy by stating an obscure fact that the geographic region Languedoc was associated with a guitar festival. C'mon - Paul was just using his last name! And if he was stealing the name from the festival, he'd be doing so with hopes of having some financial benefit to his company via the reputation of the festival. But this is clearly also not the case - how many people have even heard of the festival? If you need to state that fact on a Phish forum, you can't believe it would have any benefit to him financially. However, you did take Paul Languedoc's last name - and the name of his company - for your financial benefit. Thus your projecting when you say he stole the name for his benefit. If he was wrong for calling his guitar a Languedoc, why would you call yours a copy?
Then you rationalize building guitars that are structurally as similar to Paul's as you can by stating that the design was not his originally, but belongs to the Fender Starcaster. If you really believed this (and weren't piggybacking on the financial success of the name "Languedoc"), then you would have called your guitar a Starcaster copy. Paul's guitars are quite distinct from a Starcaster aesthetically, in construction, and in quality. He was influenced by the Starcaster - thats common knowledge - but no more so than any 'new' product is influenced by existing products. Its not a rational argument that copying Paul wasn't wrong because Paul was wrong for copying Fender - two wrongs doesn't make a right. Paul put a lot of time into learning to build guitars, the R&D of building what he calls Languedocs after he left Time Co - he absolutely has the right to the Languedoc guitar and name, and there is a "such thing" as a Languedoc guitar. I don't know what you mean by its "just a headstock" - his headstock is in the shape of Vermont - does Vermont own the right to his guitars?
However, I don't mean to suggest your necessarily ethically wrong, even though you used his name and his design. I would only say its really an ethical issue if your claiming the same quality sound and construction at a cheaper price to cut into Paul's market. I don't think you are. Your not claiming to go into the same detail he is in construction - your using a more cost-effective approach that much sacrifice some detail, such as using pre-made wiring harnesses. Your not making a tonal quality comparison, but rather stating your clients have been happy, especially with more recent builds. And, as you state, your market is distinct from Paul's: your market is the average Joe who needs a specialized hollowbody but cannot afford a Languedoc, while his market wants/needs the top-shelf and wouldn't by an RMOlsen instead. Some would argue there a moral obligation to build affordable versions because 1) working musicians have a need for it, and 2) our capitalistic cultural values taking advantage of market demands.
I believe the paragraph above is a logical and reasonable argument to describe your business as ethical without coming off as negative toward Paul. However, I know Paul has an overt and firm stance toward replicas - he says they are "all crap." This is his opinion and we can infer its his moral position that people ought not replicate his guitars because he put in many hours learning the skills of a luthier, R&D designing his guitar, etc. Paul has the right to his opinion of the quality of other instruments and his moral position even if that is what caused you frustration, but he wins if you respond so negatively. I can understand Paul's position: replicas probably cheapen the design he put so much work into, but cheaper replicas are the way of the world since the industrial era.
You said you aren't going to call your builds Languedoc copies anymore, but are you going to continue to build copies of Languedocs? If so, I think it will be important to make rational, ethically-based arguments and handle people who have differences in moral positions and opinions - its an important quality for anyone who puts there name/work in the public domain. If you do continue to make copies, I hope to try one someday. I can't afford a Languedoc right now, I'm always curious about other hollowbodies and I think the more options the better, though I'm thrilled with my Artinger, which is a top-shelf build I got at a great used price and I've heard mixed reviews of RMOlsen guitars (I'd like to make my own opinion), but they usually look great.
Hi RM Olson! Ive owned a couple of your guitars as toys. Ive also hungout with Paul Languedoc several times, when I lived in Vermont. I would suggest you stop before you get yourself into a load of shit. How dare you compare your fucking chinese shit guitars to his hand made guitars? Have you ever played one? Have you met Paul and seen the quality of his work/shop/character? Fucking douche bag.
And your hilarious mention of Languedoc France is pretty delusional, but entertaining. I bet you tell yourself/friends that pantload and they just stand on their spittoon, thank you for being so scholarly. I actually like the Phred guy. At least he can admit his guitars are tribute toys built by chinese under paid labor. I would keep ranting, but I dont really fucking care. People like equator, phred, rm olson are just trying to make a buck. Why not just build some shit in the USA, with all the of unemployed people that are around your area, and make a quality product. fucking shit head redneck asshole
i bet you wouldnt even know how to price out a hand made archtop guitar, made with the finest components by a master luthier. 10,000 for a doc because it takes a long fucking time to be able to put together an instrument of quality and it took 40 years to learn how to build one properly. its not like Paul charges 100k? Hell some archtop builders easily charge 20k? fucking asshole post dude. scamper back to the rocks from whence you came. take your shitty pickups, died fake ebony tailpieces with you!
Mr. Olson, I presume you're not a copyright attorney. I suggest you contact one. I can tell you that your interpretation of the law misses the mark - widely. Since Paul is in Vermont, and I presume you are not, he would have the option of suing you either in Vt federal court or in the federal court of whatever state you are in. The law in the Second Circuit (which includes Vt) is quite clear on this issue.
I completely agree with Heady here. Although, I do want to ask something I've been wondering since I found out about the Doc-off market (and bought mine) - Is this a copyright issue, a patent issue, or an IP (Intellectual Property) issue? Can you really take control of a bodyshape like that? If I did one with no f-holes, and instead holes like on the G4, would I be in the clear? What if I only changed the wiring scheme, or the headstock?
Also, if PL really has any legal grounds to sue anyone for this (which I don't believe he's interested in doing - he's aware of the doc-offs according to his website as of at least a year and a half ago, and hasn't gone after anyone that I know of), why doesn't Gibson sue all the people who sell straight LP copies which could very well have come from the same Chinese factory (Agile, Guild, etc)? Or Fender with all the Strats and Teles everywhere (Warmoth, rondo, etc)?
I have been lurking on this site since 2009. I logged in today, for the first time, to say the following:
I own an Equator Standard, which is a Languedoc knock off, so it's safe to say that I'm OK with such copies. I'm not at all bothered that R M Olsen makes Languedoc knock offs. I'm not even bothered by what appears to be the shoddy, out-sourced craftsmanship. But I'm hugely bothered by near delusional sanctimony of Olsen's post here. The idea that Languedoc ripped off his design from the Starcaster, or his prestige from some French guitar festival, and that these "facts" make him fair game for Olsen is laughable.
You, sir, are a complete and utter douchebag. I wouldn't buy one of your products if you were the finest luthier on the planet. Fuck you, and fuck the horse you rode in on.
I will now return to lurking.
Looks like Poster suddenly got really really unpopular... His applaud/smite is impressive.
And to top it all off, I thought it was awfully spammy of his "wares"
No Nice Guy -
I've wondered the same thing about knock off Strats and LP' - I don't think its too easy to sue for the shape of the instrument apparently, but maybe it has to do with country of manufacture.
And as far as Poster's Applaud/Smite score, IIRC the admins did that as a joke a little while back ;)
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 25, 2014, 03:25:34 PM
Since your post was so long and had so many concerns, I have posted all below with my comment in bold type
What was the motivation for this post, if you don't mind me asking?
To clarify things and I did catch some flack as you call it, but as I told Paul's lawyer, the original proto type I did was not a copy of Paul's guitars. A guy contacted me about building a proto type and at the time I did not even know what a Languedoc was. Later I realized that the pics he sent and drawings were those of a guitar made in South America or maybe Central America. Equator?
Here is the pic he sent me along with a drawing with some changes. Below I will post a pic of the actual finished guitar built to his specs. (http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Equator.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/prototype.jpg)
I can't help but write out my reaction. And I've written and re-written it several times because I'm genuinely interested, but feel I need to be honest to my reaction. So I'm going to respond clearly and concisely as possible at risk of seeming confrontational or overly direct.
I can only assume (everything is assumed because up til now, you had no facts) this post was motivated by frustration (No I don't have any frustration... to busy and too happy) from catching flack for copying Paul's guitar design. I can understand your frustration and your entitled to feeling that way, but frankly I think your post came off very negatively and some of the points you made don't seem logical to me. I think this completely overshadowed the good points you made.
I think your rationalizing, or making pseudological, or fallacious arguments that sound logical, and projecting your behaviors onto Paul. (way over head and no need for clarification)
For example, you rationalize calling your guitar a Languedoc copy by stating an obscure fact that the geographic region Languedoc was associated with a guitar festival. ( Not correct.. I was showing that the name was used in conjunction with guitars before Paul was even born. I don't want to call mine a Lang copy... I just did because everyone else was referring to it as such.) C'mon - Paul was just using his last name! They wanted me not to use the name at all but I don't believe he has an exclusive right to it. The name has been associated with guitars for decades. Right now it is just a marketing thing (keyword) to reach the people who want what they call a Lang copy, replica or clone and there are thousands of people like that. And if he was stealing the name from the festival, he'd be doing so with hopes of having some financial benefit to his company via the reputation of the festival. But this is clearly also not the case - how many people have even heard of the festival (actually more than who have heard of Paul but that means nothing. You would be amazed that how many people have never heard of Phish or a Lang) If you need to state that fact on a Phish forum, you can't believe it would have any benefit to him financially. However, you did take Paul Languedoc's last name - and the name of his company - for your financial benefit. Thus your projecting when you say he stole the name for his benefit. If he was wrong for calling his guitar a Languedoc, why would you call yours a copy?
I still hold to the belief that Paul does not have an exclusive to a name that has been associated with guitars for a hundred years... I did not get an argument from his lawyer over that.
Then you rationalize building guitars that are structurally (my guitars are not structurally similar to Paul's. Paul's body are bent wood sides where mine are solid wood routed to full hollow. My body was not copied from a Lang and looks closer to a Starcaster. See the comparisons in the pic below.)as similar to Paul's as you can by stating that the design was not his originally, but belongs to the Fender Starcaster. If you really believed this (and weren't piggybacking on the financial success of the name "Languedoc" (like I told you, my guitar was not copied after the Lang), then you would have called your guitar a Starcaster copy. Paul's guitars are quite distinct from a Starcaster aesthetically, in construction, and in quality. He was influenced by the Starcaster - thats common knowledge - but no more so than any 'new' product is influenced by existing products" So your logic applies to Paul but not me or anyone else? . Its not a rational argument that copying Paul wasn't wrong because Paul was wrong for copying Fender - two wrongs doesn't make a right. Paul put a lot of time into learning to build guitars, the R&D of building what he calls Languedocs after he left Time Co - he absolutely has the right to the Languedoc guitar and name, and there is a "such thing" as a Languedoc guitar. I don't know what you mean by its "just a headstock" - his headstock is in the shape of Vermont - does Vermont own the right to his guitars? (he has a Trademark only on the headstock not on the shape of the body or any other aspect of the guitar. Below are drawings I used to show Paul's lawyer the difference between my headtock and theirs)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/comparison.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/headstocks1.jpg)
His lawyer could only provide proof to me that Paul's headstock is protected under his Trade Mark. That's fine with me. Paul claimed I was infringing on the headstock Trademark and I was not.
However, I don't mean to suggest your necessarily ethically wrong, even though you used his name and his design. I would only say its really an ethical issue if your claiming the same quality sound and construction at a cheaper price to cut into Paul's market. I don't think you are. Your not claiming to go into the same detail he is in construction - your using a more cost-effective approach that much sacrifice some detail, such as using pre-made wiring harnesses.(What's a premade harness? Mine are handmade by www.bcsguitars.com (http://www.bcsguitars.com) They are made of USA parts and with metal shield wire and Seymour Duncan builds my pickups. Your not making a tonal quality comparison, but rather stating your clients have been happy, especially with more recent builds. And, as you state, your market is distinct from Paul's: your market is the average Joe who needs a specialized hollowbody but cannot afford a Languedoc, while his market wants/needs the top-shelf and wouldn't by an RMOlson instead. Some would argue there a moral obligation to build affordable versions because 1) working musicians have a need for it, and 2) our capitalistic cultural values taking advantage of market demands.
I believe the paragraph above is a logical and reasonable argument to describe your business as ethical without coming off as negative toward Paul. However, I know Paul has an overt and firm stance toward replicas - he says they are "all crap." This is his opinion and we can infer its his moral position that people ought not replicate his guitars because he put in many hours learning the skills of a luthier, R&D designing his guitar, etc. Paul has the right to his opinion of the quality of other instruments and his moral position even if that is what caused you frustration, but he wins if you respond so negatively. I can understand Paul's position: replicas probably cheapen the design he put so much work into, but cheaper replicas are the way of the world since the industrial era.
You said you aren't going to call your builds Languedoc copies anymore, but are you going to continue to build copies of Languedocs?(no I am building Ollandocs... You could say its a 'new' product influenced by some existing products that were influenced by a Lang that was influenced by a Starcaster.) If so, I think it will be important to make rational, ethically-based arguments and handle people who have differences in moral positions and opinions - its an important quality for anyone who puts there name/work in the public domain. If you do continue to make copies, I hope to try one someday. I can't afford a Languedoc right now, I'm always curious about other hollowbodies and I think the more options the better, though I'm thrilled with my Artinger, which is a top-shelf build I got at a great used price and I've heard mixed reviews of RMOlson guitars (I'd like to make my own opinion), but they usually look great.
Here are some pics of current models.
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/PICT8952)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/PICT9138)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/PICT1A)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/PICT2A)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/PICT3A)
Fucking Chinese shit guitars with duncans in them. You can say whatever you want to man. And those fucking Chinese tail pieces are most certainly not ebony. Its probably died mahogany.
Sounds like PL already attempted to stop you from making money off his design/name etc Fucking scum bag. We should keep this discussion going with "RM OLSON GUITARS" all up in these responses, so the SEO for his guitars brings potential buyers here to read this shit.
Can we go back to how Ive owned 2 of your shitty guitars and they were a fucking joke? Ive owned both Equator and a Phred instruments guitars also, and yours were the shittiest of all, just based on the weak CNC quality, plastic wood, plastic binding, = shit. At least Phred tries to mix it up a bit, doing some semi hybrid designs. Your just a straight slave owning piece of shit con artist.
Those fucking glue plastic guitars a pieces of shit. You could spend a fortune trying to set one up properly, but then you'd just have a shitty guitar with a good setup. Hell when I looked down in the f holes on the last one I came across there was some gnarly routing work done in there. Just ridiculous.
Knocking off Gibson guitars is pretty shitty already, but really, cmon you momo, ripping off a respected luthiers work because some guy in South America did, is fucking WEAK. And just so you know D. Colem*n is a piece of shit too, and only after selling hundreds of shitty made guitars, figured out how to put out some decent stuff, thats still basically just a cheap knock off of the real thing.
Fender re-released the Starcaster last year
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 25, 2014, 03:33:42 AM
Guitars have been associated with Languedoc for probably a hundred years. I believe the second largest guitar festival in the world is held in Languedoc. Paul doesn't have an exclusive for the name...
There is actually no such thing as a Languedoc guitar... just a Languedoc headstock. The offset body was actually copied from from the Starcaster. When Paul worked for the Time Guitar Co they copied a few things from the Starcaster even naming one of their guitars the Timecaster.
I am not calling mine a copy of a Languedoc anymore even though many people do but have named it an Ollandoc. Mine now all have USA made wiring harnesses by www.bcsguitars.com and Seymour Duncan makes my pickups in there custom shop. The big market is all the regular Joe's who can't afford a $7,000 to $10,000 guitar and even if they could an individual could not build one for all of them. People have been tickled pink with my new models ... well they never complained much about my first models either.
Ship me one for a few weeks and I'll let people know what I think
Its insane to me that this dude would come here, of all places in the entire fucking world, and see what happens. LOL Thanks! If this is TL/DR my opinion is
A) Its okay for small American luthiers to build tribute guitars, with obvious changes to the original designs.
B) Its not okay to order shitty guitars off the internet from China and act like your some sort of Bendetto luthier of the blue collar guitarists. Your just an asshole.
Thanks for clearing up why you were talking about the headstock being the only thing that was "Languedoc."
I think your digging yourself in a bigger ditch. Man up and admit you got busted cloning someone else's work dude.
You know, I had considered trying out one of your guitars as a backup/knock-around (for a couple hundred $), now I wouldn't pay you in used strings.
How long did it take you to believe your own story?
Your still stating moot points to rationalize stealing Paul's work. Who cares someone had you clone an Equator - thats a clone of Languedoc and just because David from Equator isn't hassling you doesn't make it any better than cloning the Languedoc directly! After that you clearly just jumped on the opportunity to make more profits cloning Languedocs:
- You stole the Languedoc nickname "Doc" and used it in your clone: Ollandoc (sounds an aweful lot like Occedoc).
- Your headstock is now almost exactly the same as Paul's! If that is a key issue to Paul and his lawyer, show some f'in creativity and make your own! If you have to draw-up visual diagrams how the slight differences between yours and Paul's, then your just showing that you stole Paul's.
Quote from: Poster on March 26, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
Its insane to me that this dude would come here, of all places in the entire fucking world, and see what happens. LOL Thanks! If this is TL/DR my opinion is
A) Its okay for small American luthiers to build tribute guitars, with obvious changes to the original designs.
B) Its not okay to order shitty guitars off the internet from China and act like your some sort of Bendetto luthier of the blue collar guitarists. Your just an asshole.
Yeah! I can't wrap my mind around how he could think thats a good idea! He really f'in believes himself!
Ollson - your guitar looks like a Doc more than a Starcaster:
- Headstock
- "Horns"
- Contour of the top
- Bridge/Tailpeice
- Knobs/layout
Oh fuck, this is the best thread I've read in a long while. Fucking wonderful. Poster you always have a way with words my friend.
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 26, 2014, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: Poster on March 26, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
Its insane to me that this dude would come here, of all places in the entire fucking world, and see what happens. LOL Thanks! If this is TL/DR my opinion is
A) Its okay for small American luthiers to build tribute guitars, with obvious changes to the original designs.
B) Its not okay to order shitty guitars off the internet from China and act like your some sort of Bendetto luthier of the blue collar guitarists. Your just an asshole.
Yeah! I can't wrap my mind around how he could think thats a good idea! He really f'in believes himself!
Ollson - your guitar looks like a Doc more than a Starcaster:
- Headstock
- "Horns"
- Contour of the top
- Bridge/Tailpeice
- Knobs/layout
Don't forget to mention that the Ollson plays and sounds like shit.
Quote from: express50express on March 26, 2014, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 26, 2014, 01:45:18 PM
Quote from: Poster on March 26, 2014, 01:13:21 PM
Its insane to me that this dude would come here, of all places in the entire fucking world, and see what happens. LOL Thanks! If this is TL/DR my opinion is
A) Its okay for small American luthiers to build tribute guitars, with obvious changes to the original designs.
B) Its not okay to order shitty guitars off the internet from China and act like your some sort of Bendetto luthier of the blue collar guitarists. Your just an asshole.
Yeah! I can't wrap my mind around how he could think thats a good idea! He really f'in believes himself!
Ollson - your guitar looks like a Doc more than a Starcaster:
- Headstock
- "Horns"
- Contour of the top
- Bridge/Tailpeice
- Knobs/layout
Don't forget to mention that the Ollson plays and sounds like shit.
Thats a good argument for RM: "My guitars aren't clones because they're suuuuper shitty"
All that paint and gloss is to hide how shitty the body is. Strip it all down to the wood, and it may have a chance of sounding better.
Quote from: express50express on March 26, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
All that paint and gloss is to hide how shitty the body is. Strip it all down to the wood, and it may have a chance of sounding better.
Yeah, when I built guitars, I just used Tung Oil. The first Ollson guitar looks like he repurposed the wood from a picnic table.
I still can't wrap my head around why he thought coming here to push said wares would be a good idea.
but the harness was done in the USA by the Cody Mullet Custom Shop! lol so lame. There is hate built into each one of those guitars. Just because those people get paid a dollar a day to build your plastic guitars doesnt mean we should be happy about it. Tesla! Tesla! Tesla! Sic Semper Tyrannis!
If I buy one, will you toss in a free Chinese Rolex.
Ok, I tried to stay away but I just can't help myself. I admit that I bought one of his guitars about a year ago, and it was the biggest piece of dogshit I ever saw. There was a huge scratch on the fretboard, the fret wire cut my hand, the body was chipped all to hell, the binding was coming off, and don't even get me started on the tailpiece....basically everything about it sucked balls! Anyway, most people copy each other in one way or another...hell, half of us have the same exact gear Trey uses....myself included :) However, I copy Gilmour now...haha. The difference between us and you, is that we have the balls to admit it. I don't think anyone here would deny trying to cop Treys tone at some point...and why not, it's a wonderful tone! Anyway, don't come back here Mr. Slave laborer.....nobody here wants your garbage. This is the worst place you could've come...didn't anybody ever warn you about the Phish community? We're all hopped up on that reefer, and we are fuckin CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!
This thread is heavy on LOLZ upon LOLZ
Good work, Strange Designers
Quote from: Happyorange27 on March 26, 2014, 02:40:04 PM
Oh fuck, this is the best thread I've read in a long while. Fucking wonderful. Poster you always have a way with words my friend.
Couldn't have said it any better... God that guys guitars look terrible! How delusional is he to come air his dirty laundry here and actually think that his cry for help would be met with support? And sadly enough, I don't doubt that half of his thought process of making a post here, was so he will take some more money from hard working Americans so he can support his drug habit while boosting the Chinese economy instead of our own.... Facking P.O.S!
Quote from: TheSeeker on March 26, 2014, 06:16:06 PM
Ok, I tried to stay away but I just can't help myself. I admit that I bought one of his guitars about a year ago, and it was the biggest piece of dogshit I ever saw. There was a huge scratch on the fretboard, the fret wire cut my hand, the body was chipped all to hell, the binding was coming off, and don't even get me started on the tailpiece....basically everything about it sucked balls! Anyway, most people copy each other in one way or another...hell, half of us have the same exact gear Trey uses....myself included :) However, I copy Gilmour now...haha. The difference between us and you, is that we have the balls to admit it. I don't think anyone here would deny trying to cop Treys tone at some point...and why not, it's a wonderful tone! Anyway, don't come back here Mr. Slave laborer.....nobody here wants your garbage. This is the worst place you could've come...didn't anybody ever warn you about the Phish community? We're all hopped up on that reefer, and we are fuckin CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!
Its been the Phish community that has supported my business for the last few years and still do to this day that includes people from this forum...to them I say thank you. What do you think of those good people?
To all of you who feel the need to put me down, I wish the best for you and your families. I hope for you the best in health, happiness and success.
Do on to others as you would have them do on to you is a great motto... worth much more than a mouthful poor language. My success comes from wanting others to succeed and helping others when I can.
Some of you seem to believe that no one in Asia can build anything of quality but that is a silly notion. The guitars made cheaply in Asian countries were order that way by American businessmen. They ask for the guitars to be made as cheaply as possible to make more off their investment. My Ollandocs are made with a two piece mahogany body routed to full hollow and have a carved maple cap. I don't do things cheaply.
One great thing about living here in the USA is that we can all agree to disagree. If you think my guitars are ugly, more power to you... but the thousands of people who have bought my guitars over the last few years and think their great... more power to them too.
One guy told me that people must like my guitars because he said he searched the internet to find used ones and they were almost impossible to find. It doesn't matter if you personally do not like my guitars because there are plenty others that do. Some people have bought as many as six to 10 of my guitars.
For you who say I am supporting China instead of America, first, you should have thought of that long ago and call your Congressman rather than talking about it on a forum. Second, I am 100% sure that if we all took a tour of your home and threw out everything that wasn't made in the USA, you would not have much left in your house.
Again, I would like to extend my thanks once again to all those wonderful people in the Phish community who have supported my efforts.
As far as "do unto others."
If I were in your shoes, I'd hope people gave me as honest of feedback as you've gotten here: your wrong, Paul is right and bull-headedly repeating your illogical stance won't change that. Like I said before, man up if you want respect. You lost mine in this thread.
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Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 27, 2014, 01:48:25 PM
As far as "do unto others."
If I were in your shoes, I'd hope people gave me as honest of feedback as you've gotten here: your wrong, Paul is right and bull-headedly repeating your illogical stance won't change that. Like I said before, man up if you want respect. You lost mine in this thread.
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More power to Paul , I hope the best and more for him.
People do give me honest feedback and my best kind is all the repeat sales I have received. My dad sold
his handmade guitars up and down the California coast where he made them at our home in Redondo Beach.
That's where he taught me to build guitars years ago. For me, I will continue to have them built to my specs
and not be cheap on the woods used. I am going to continue helping people get guitars that are out of their financial
reach.
So, what do you think of all the people in the Phish community who have supported me?
You can't please everyone in life all you can do is try your best.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 27, 2014, 02:10:42 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 27, 2014, 01:48:25 PM
As far as "do unto others."
If I were in your shoes, I'd hope people gave me as honest of feedback as you've gotten here: your wrong, Paul is right and bull-headedly repeating your illogical stance won't change that. Like I said before, man up if you want respect. You lost mine in this thread.
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More power to Paul , I hope the best and more for him.
People do give me honest feedback and my best kind is all the repeat sales I have received. My dad sold
his handmade guitars up and down the California coast where he made them at our home in Redondo Beach.
That's where he taught me to build guitars years ago. For me, I will continue to have them built to my specs
and not be cheap on the woods used. I am going to continue helping people get guitars that are out of their financial
reach.
So, what do you think of all the people in the Phish community who have supported me?
You can't please everyone in life all you can do is try your best.
Who? Where?
All I see here is one person said your guitar fell to pieces.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 27, 2014, 01:28:33 PM
but the thousands of people who have bought my guitars over the last few years and think their great... more power to them too.
Thousands of people!
Quote from: cactuskeeb on March 27, 2014, 05:25:23 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 27, 2014, 01:28:33 PM
but the thousands of people who have bought my guitars over the last few years and think their great... more power to them too.
Thousands of people!
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Just curious, how much is he asking for this guitar?
Bottom line for me is, a Fender or a Gibson is a "Regular Joe" guitar. Whereas, this is just a cheap knockoff.
This is no different than buying a fake Rolex. You would only buy a fake to pretend to be someone your not.
Like Rolex, I'm glad to see that Paul isn't lowering his prices to compete with a fake market.
You can put a Swiss movement in a fake Rolex, and it's still a complete piece of shit. Kind of like putting SD pickups in this guitar.
Let's be honest, the only reason why thousands of people would really buy these guitars is to pretend to be Trey or use it as a toy. However, if this is what your into, go for it!
Anyone who knows how to play guitar would feel like a complete dink using this guitar for a gig.
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 27, 2014, 03:02:38 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 27, 2014, 02:10:42 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 27, 2014, 01:48:25 PM
As far as "do unto others."
If I were in your shoes, I'd hope people gave me as honest of feedback as you've gotten here: your wrong, Paul is right and bull-headedly repeating your illogical stance won't change that. Like I said before, man up if you want respect. You lost mine in this thread.
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More power to Paul , I hope the best and more for him.
People do give me honest feedback and my best kind is all the repeat sales I have received. My dad sold
his handmade guitars up and down the California coast where he made them at our home in Redondo Beach.
That's where he taught me to build guitars years ago. For me, I will continue to have them built to my specs
and not be cheap on the woods used. I am going to continue helping people get guitars that are out of their financial
reach.
So, what do you think of all the people in the Phish community who have supported me?
You can't please everyone in life all you can do is try your best.
Who? Where?
All I see here is one person said your guitar fell to pieces.
Who? Where... come on over and I will show you my sales records.
Let's see, I started this about three years ago for the guy I built the proto type for. So I have been selling these for about awhile now. Just sold another today.
These been selling these for an average of $1100 to $1400 Blems are in the $900.00 range. If a person wants to do there own wiring and use there own pickups, we work out a special deal. I work deals with people all the time. Payment plans are also available.
Some people seem like they don't know that Gibson and Fender both have some Asian made products. Nothing wrong with that... there for a particular market. And I really wonder how people can make any claims and talk so much smack without ever trying one mine. And for the guy who claimed he bought two and they were both crap? Why did he buy a second? Some people are just big story tellers.
You only have about ten people on here who have been riding me or joining in. A couple alpha males and the rest some followers. I have probably sold at least to ten times as many people. I use to sell for a few years on Ebay, you can go there and check on all that feedback you were talking about. After years on there my feedback is still 100% Let's get back to that question you keep dodging.... let's say I only sold to ten people out of the Phish community... will you ten who been on my case, kick them out of your community? Let me ask you, how big is the Phish following?
As soon as I get a chance, I will show you what my biggest seller is to see if you will give me any slack over it.
one had the headstock stripped -- it was unintentional i can assure you
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Just sold another today.
Who'd ya sell it to? I wanna personally say I'm sorry he got conned.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
And for the guy who claimed he bought two and they were both crap? Why did he buy a second?
He said he bought ONE and it was crap: cut his hands and fell apart.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Some people are just big story tellers.
Your projecting again - everyone here keeps saying you are a delusional storyteller who's greatest feat was convincing yourself!
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Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
A couple alpha males and the rest some followers.
WHO ARE YOU TO CALL ANYONE A FOLLOWER: YOUR CLONING SOMEONE ELSE'S GUITAR DESIGN
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Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Let's get back to that question you keep dodging.... let's say I only sold to ten people out of the Phish community... will you ten who been on my case, kick them out of your community? Let me ask you, how big is the Phish following?
Dodging? You never asked any questions let alone that one.
Kick them out of the Phish community? What does that even mean? How would you kick someone out of being a fan?
How big is the Phish following? I have no idea, how big is the Beatles following? Phish's following in niche, making it even harder to tell. But they sell out huge venues tour after tour, year after year. There following is massive especially considering they get less radio play than Conrad Twatty.
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 28, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Just sold another today.
Who'd ya sell it to? I wanna personally say I'm sorry he got conned.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
And for the guy who claimed he bought two and they were both crap? Why did he buy a second?
He said he bought ONE and it was crap: cut his hands and fell apart.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Some people are just big story tellers.
Your projecting again - everyone here keeps saying you are a delusional storyteller who's greatest feat was convincing yourself!
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
A couple alpha males and the rest some followers.
WHO ARE YOU TO CALL ANYONE A FOLLOWER: YOUR CLONING SOMEONE ELSE'S GUITAR DESIGN
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Let's get back to that question you keep dodging.... let's say I only sold to ten people out of the Phish community... will you ten who been on my case, kick them out of your community? Let me ask you, how big is the Phish following?
Dodging? You never asked any questions let alone that one.
Kick them out of the Phish community? What does that even mean? How would you kick someone out of being a fan?
How big is the Phish following? I have no idea, how big is the Beatles following? Phish's following in niche, making it even harder to tell. But they sell out huge venues tour after tour, year after year. There following is massive especially considering they get less radio play than Conrad Twatty.
Your right, that their following is massive. That's why its been such a great market for me. The 10 people that have been on my case here are not the talking majority for the Phish community. I will continue listening to all those customers of mine have bought or want my guitars. Got another Phish fan wanting one this morning. Everyone just doesn't believe you... I will just continue to listen to what my Phish fan customers want since right now they are the majority. I have never said my guitars were handmade in USA by Paul. Many people have said they couldn't even get a return email from Paul. Paul is a one man show and the market is like you said so big that it is bigger than Paul. Right now there are several people who make a guitar that is close enough to make people happy. Within the next year or so that number will multiply. Five years ago when I started in this business, you could make a single cutaway solid body guitar similar to a LP and make some money, today, there are so many people making them that I no longer have any finished models. That will probably soon be the case for the guitar we are discussing.
Have you ever played a real doc and do you think it weighs more than if it was made from laminates like a Gibson LP semi hollow? I have customers that think I should make molds and make my Ollandoc's out of laminates. I think I should stick with solid wood.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 28, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Just sold another today.
Who'd ya sell it to? I wanna personally say I'm sorry he got conned.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
And for the guy who claimed he bought two and they were both crap? Why did he buy a second?
He said he bought ONE and it was crap: cut his hands and fell apart.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Some people are just big story tellers.
Your projecting again - everyone here keeps saying you are a delusional storyteller who's greatest feat was convincing yourself!
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
A couple alpha males and the rest some followers.
WHO ARE YOU TO CALL ANYONE A FOLLOWER: YOUR CLONING SOMEONE ELSE'S GUITAR DESIGN
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:15:12 AM
Let's get back to that question you keep dodging.... let's say I only sold to ten people out of the Phish community... will you ten who been on my case, kick them out of your community? Let me ask you, how big is the Phish following?
Dodging? You never asked any questions let alone that one.
Kick them out of the Phish community? What does that even mean? How would you kick someone out of being a fan?
How big is the Phish following? I have no idea, how big is the Beatles following? Phish's following in niche, making it even harder to tell. But they sell out huge venues tour after tour, year after year. There following is massive especially considering they get less radio play than Conrad Twatty.
Your right, that their following is massive. That's why its been such a great market for me. The 10 people that have been on my case here are not the talking majority for the Phish community. I will continue listening to all those customers of mine have bought or want my guitars. Got another Phish fan wanting one this morning. Everyone just doesn't believe you... I will just continue to listen to what my Phish fan customers want since right now they are the majority.
.
I have never said my guitars were handmade in USA by Paul. Many people have said they couldn't even get a return email from Paul. Paul is a one man show and the market is like you said so big that it is bigger than Paul. Right now there are several people who make a guitar that is close enough to make people happy. Within the next year or so that number will multiply. Five years ago when I started in this business, you could make a single cutaway solid body guitar similar to a LP and make some money, today, there are so many people making them that I no longer have any finished models. That will probably soon be the case for the guitar we are discussing.
Have you ever played a real doc and do you think it weighs more than if it was made from laminates like a Gibson LP semi hollow? I have customers that think I should make molds and make my Ollandoc's out of laminates. I think I should stick with solid wood.
"I will continue listening to all those customers of mine have bought or want my guitars." That's funny, because you didn't seem to listen to me. You tried to make it right with me by ignoring all my emails I sent. Is that why you don't take Paypal and only take moneygrams? So you can screw people and get away with it. It's my fault for being naive, but lesson learned. Even the case that you sent with it was falling apart. The cheap tolex (if that's actually what it was) was coming apart all over. HEADY, let's start a band and call it Alpha Male and the followers....that has a nice ring to it...haha. Better not though...wouldn't want RM Olson suing us for the rights to his bullshit.
Can I play cowbell? I'm really really good and know all the notes.
Quote from: Buffered on March 28, 2014, 12:14:39 PM
Can I play cowbell? I'm really really good and know all the notes.
We could just be the Air Band from that episode of Scrubs (bout 30 seconds in, if you feel lazy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0jxRwp3V5Q
I call singer!
Quote from: No Nice Guy on March 28, 2014, 12:29:18 PM
Quote from: Buffered on March 28, 2014, 12:14:39 PM
Can I play cowbell? I'm really really good and know all the notes.
We could just be the Air Band from that episode of Scrubs (bout 30 seconds in, if you feel lazy):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0jxRwp3V5Q
I call singer!
Haha, I love scrubs! I really liked the episode with the guy from Men at work....and of course all the Heather Graham episodes!!
Whats really funny is that the guy apparently thinks he is invulnerable... Last I checked there are lots of user review based sites out there? Its just a matter of time dude, your fucked. I got one for 340 dollars of ebay a couple years ago, it was a joke, junk wood, crappy included hardware, it was crazy. Dumped it back on the bay unfinished for 220. Second one was off craigslist, and I bought it for the Schaller pickups that were in it, listed as a languedoc type guitar, the headstock has been stripped of his name. it too, was a piece of shit, with a wonk neck, goofy glue at the neck joint, sharp frets = shit. Dumped that body on the bay for 200ish as a project. Anybody that pays 1400 for one of these things, and likes it, is an asshole.
Hide behind the name seeker so you can say whatever you want. I still do some PayPal but very little because I don't care to pay the fees. I have used it for years on Ebay. I have been on there since 1998 and still have a 100% Feedback rating. I did sell one of my Ollandoc's in last month on Ebay and took PayPal for it... here is the Feedback that buyer left me... Holy S#!t what an incredible guitar! Worth. Every. Penny. Buyer:
Member id sleevesab ( Feedback Score Of 50Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99)
Feb-19-14 06:59
Languedoc France Guitars Ollandoc R M Olson Guitars USA Trey Phish Three Models (#111236890136) US $1,200.00 View Item
Here is a link for people to check out my feedback... and when people really want me to take PayPal... I usually do.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1)
I sold that one on Ebay to see how they would sell but you pay a lot for a $1200.00 item! You have to go back to the feedback left around April 29th to see all the other positive feedback on other guitars I sold. Everyone a positive. How in the world can sell since 1998 and still have a 100% rating? If you ever noticed, people who are dishonest on Ebay got really bad ratings. By the way, do you have a rating on Ebay... how does anyone know to believe you?
You can never please everyone... its easier to just give someones money back if they are unsatisfied or find a answer to the problem. I have paid to have a new nut made and I have paid because someone said the guitar was not setup just to their liking... I do that to find solutions to the problem.
I don't hide from anyone one... never have and never will.
Well for one when all your guitars have, by in large been unfinished, it takes more than 31 days for somebody to put one together. I wonder how much money people have spent trying to get them setup? And out of 1000's of guitars you have paid for a singular nut to be replaced? Sweet fancy moses don't hurt yourself bending over backwards.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 12:47:12 PM
Hide behind the name seeker so you can say whatever you want. I still do some PayPal but very little because I don't care to pay the fees. I have used it for years on Ebay. I have been on there since 1998 and still have a 100% Feedback rating. I did sell one of my Ollandoc's in last month on Ebay and took PayPal for it... here is the Feedback that buyer left me... Holy S#!t what an incredible guitar! Worth. Every. Penny. Buyer:
Member id sleevesab ( Feedback Score Of 50Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99)
Feb-19-14 06:59
Languedoc France Guitars Ollandoc R M Olson Guitars USA Trey Phish Three Models (#111236890136) US $1,200.00 View Item
Here is a link for people to check out my feedback... and when people really want me to take PayPal... I usually do.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1)
I sold that one on Ebay to see how they would sell but you pay a lot for a $1200.00 item! You have to go back to the feedback left around April 29th to see all the other positive feedback on other guitars I sold. Everyone a positive. How in the world can sell since 1998 and still have a 100% rating? If you ever noticed, people who are dishonest on Ebay got really bad ratings. By the way, do you have a rating on Ebay... how does anyone know to believe you?
You can never please everyone... its easier to just give someones money back if they are unsatisfied or find a answer to the problem. I have paid to have a new nut made and I have paid because someone said the guitar was not setup just to their liking... I do that to find solutions to the problem.
I don't hide from anyone one... never have and never will.
Hide behind the name? What the fuck does that even mean? I'll tell you my real name, and still say whatever I want if you'd like. What are you gonna send a hit squad after me for telling people the truth about your dogshit? You're still dancing around the fact that you sent me a piece of shit. Why didn't you ever return my emails? What would you have done to make it right? Nothing! That's what I figured. If you were a stand-up guy, I would have a little respect for you. You're not though. You're a get-rich-quick kinda guy, no matter what the cost. Do you put bamboo shoots under the finger nails of your Chinese slaves if they don't get it right? I feel sorry for the guy who put together the guitar I bought.....both his arms are probably missing by now. It's all good man. When people google RM Olson reviews, this thread will probably be the first thing that comes up. Good luck to you! Oh, and no you can't be in the band.
Quote from: Poster on March 28, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Whats really funny is that the guy apparently thinks he is invulnerable... Last I checked there are lots of user review based sites out there? Its just a matter of time dude, your fucked. I got one for 340 dollars of ebay a couple years ago, it was a joke, junk wood, crappy included hardware, it was crazy. Dumped it back on the bay unfinished for 220. Second one was off craigslist, and I bought it for the Schaller pickups that were in it, listed as a languedoc type guitar, the headstock has been stripped of his name. it too, was a piece of shit, with a wonk neck, goofy glue at the neck joint, sharp frets = shit. Dumped that body on the bay for 200ish as a project. Anybody that pays 1400 for one of these things, and likes it, is an asshole.
So ya bought one on Ebay where you were fully protected by Ebay and PayPal? But instead of having PayPal freeze my account and getting your money back, you decided to dump it on Ebay and take a $120.00 loss... yea right! I did sell a couple blem kits but sent pics of any issues... I still don't know why anyone would believe that story but you can make up a good one. If you really did buy one on Craigs list, it very well may have been a kit as they don't have my logo on them.
My first kits several years ago were not great but they are pretty good now but there is something about Phish fans that they seem to prefer finished guitars. Right now I only have flamed and spalted maple kits. I will sell just the body/neck or with any options like the tailpiece, USA made harness and the Seymour Duncan SH1 pickups.(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit1.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit2.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit3.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kits4.jpg)
Quote from: TheSeeker on March 28, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
"I will continue listening to all those customers of mine have bought or want my guitars." That's funny, because you didn't seem to listen to me. You tried to make it right with me by ignoring all my emails I sent. Is that why you don't take Paypal and only take moneygrams? So you can screw people and get away with it. It's my fault for being naive, but lesson learned. Even the case that you sent with it was falling apart. The cheap tolex (if that's actually what it was) was coming apart all over. HEADY, let's start a band and call it Alpha Male and the followers....that has a nice ring to it...haha. Better not though...wouldn't want RM Olson suing us for the rights to his bullshit.
Haha, I'm in.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 01:21:10 PM
Quote from: Poster on March 28, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Whats really funny is that the guy apparently thinks he is invulnerable... Last I checked there are lots of user review based sites out there? Its just a matter of time dude, your fucked. I got one for 340 dollars of ebay a couple years ago, it was a joke, junk wood, crappy included hardware, it was crazy. Dumped it back on the bay unfinished for 220. Second one was off craigslist, and I bought it for the Schaller pickups that were in it, listed as a languedoc type guitar, the headstock has been stripped of his name. it too, was a piece of shit, with a wonk neck, goofy glue at the neck joint, sharp frets = shit. Dumped that body on the bay for 200ish as a project. Anybody that pays 1400 for one of these things, and likes it, is an asshole.
So ya bought one on Ebay where you were fully protected by Ebay and PayPal? But instead of having PayPal freeze my account and getting your money back, you decided to dump it on Ebay and take a $120.00 loss... yea right! I did sell a couple blem kits but sent pics of any issues... I still don't know why anyone would believe that story but you can make up a good one.
My first kits several years ago were not great but they are pretty good now but there is something about Phish fans that they seem to prefer finished guitars. Right now I only have flamed and spalted maple kits. I will sell just the body/neck or with any options like the tailpiece, USA made harness and the Seymour Duncan SH1 pickups.
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit1.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit2.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit3.jpg)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/kit3.jpg)
Still not answering my question about why you sent me a crap guitar, and ignored all my emails. I don't even care, you're a douchebag and everyone knows it now.
Quote from: TheSeeker on March 28, 2014, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 12:47:12 PM
Hide behind the name seeker so you can say whatever you want. I still do some PayPal but very little because I don't care to pay the fees. I have used it for years on Ebay. I have been on there since 1998 and still have a 100% Feedback rating. I did sell one of my Ollandoc's in last month on Ebay and took PayPal for it... here is the Feedback that buyer left me... Holy S#!t what an incredible guitar! Worth. Every. Penny. Buyer:
Member id sleevesab ( Feedback Score Of 50Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99)
Feb-19-14 06:59
Languedoc France Guitars Ollandoc R M Olson Guitars USA Trey Phish Three Models (#111236890136) US $1,200.00 View Item
Here is a link for people to check out my feedback... and when people really want me to take PayPal... I usually do.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1)
I sold that one on Ebay to see how they would sell but you pay a lot for a $1200.00 item! You have to go back to the feedback left around April 29th to see all the other positive feedback on other guitars I sold. Everyone a positive. How in the world can sell since 1998 and still have a 100% rating? If you ever noticed, people who are dishonest on Ebay got really bad ratings. By the way, do you have a rating on Ebay... how does anyone know to believe you?
You can never please everyone... its easier to just give someones money back if they are unsatisfied or find a answer to the problem. I have paid to have a new nut made and I have paid because someone said the guitar was not setup just to their liking... I do that to find solutions to the problem.
I don't hide from anyone one... never have and never will.
Hide behind the name? What the fuck does that even mean? I'll tell you my real name, and still say whatever I want if you'd like. What are you gonna send a hit squad after me for telling people the truth about your dogshit? You're still dancing around the fact that you sent me a piece of shit. Why didn't you ever return my emails? What would you have done to make it right? Nothing! That's what I figured. If you were a stand-up guy, I would have a little respect for you. You're not though. You're a get-rich-quick kinda guy, no matter what the cost. Do you put bamboo shoots under the finger nails of your Chinese slaves if they don't get it right? I feel sorry for the guy who put together the guitar I bought.....both his arms are probably missing by now. It's all good man. When people google RM Olson reviews, this thread will probably be the first thing that comes up. Good luck to you! Oh, and no you can't be in the band.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 02:36:59 PM
Quote from: TheSeeker on March 28, 2014, 01:08:08 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 12:47:12 PM
Hide behind the name seeker so you can say whatever you want. I still do some PayPal but very little because I don't care to pay the fees. I have used it for years on Ebay. I have been on there since 1998 and still have a 100% Feedback rating. I did sell one of my Ollandoc's in last month on Ebay and took PayPal for it... here is the Feedback that buyer left me... Holy S#!t what an incredible guitar! Worth. Every. Penny. Buyer:
Member id sleevesab ( Feedback Score Of 50Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99)
Feb-19-14 06:59
Languedoc France Guitars Ollandoc R M Olson Guitars USA Trey Phish Three Models (#111236890136) US $1,200.00 View Item
Here is a link for people to check out my feedback... and when people really want me to take PayPal... I usually do.
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1 (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=AllFeedback&userid=roann999&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&interval=0&mPg=104&page=1)
I sold that one on Ebay to see how they would sell but you pay a lot for a $1200.00 item! You have to go back to the feedback left around April 29th to see all the other positive feedback on other guitars I sold. Everyone a positive. How in the world can sell since 1998 and still have a 100% rating? If you ever noticed, people who are dishonest on Ebay got really bad ratings. By the way, do you have a rating on Ebay... how does anyone know to believe you?
You can never please everyone... its easier to just give someones money back if they are unsatisfied or find a answer to the problem. I have paid to have a new nut made and I have paid because someone said the guitar was not setup just to their liking... I do that to find solutions to the problem.
I don't hide from anyone one... never have and never will.
Thanks a lot guys! This is working out really great. I just got off the phone with one of your forum members. He has been following me on other forums for a long time and now he is buying.
When I get a chance, I will post pics of guitars that people have made from my kits. Have a great day!
its a conspiracy! ;D
I just joined SD a few weeks ago and hadn't posted yet, but this one brought me out. I checked your site out just because I was curious, and can't believe you can actually straight up lie with a straight face. Seriously, how do you sleep at night?
"Our Ollandoc Model is Similar to the Old 1975 Starcaster Body Style Languedoc France Style Guitar Copy Clone Replica."
Just admit that you are trying to steal Paul's design, get the headstock to match as close as possible without getting sued, and then sell cheap POS guitars to people who don't know any better because they want to pretend to be Trey.
You should pretty much just stop posting, because you only embarrass yourself more.
The site moderators just need to remove him from the forum for attempting to sell fakes, and lets just move on. Just be glad we responded so he doesn't screw anyone on this site. His login should have been removed after the first post.
Quote from: Poster on March 28, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Whats really funny is that the guy apparently thinks he is invulnerable... Last I checked there are lots of user review based sites out there? Its just a matter of time dude, your fucked. I got one for 340 dollars of ebay a couple years ago, it was a joke, junk wood, crappy included hardware, it was crazy. Dumped it back on the bay unfinished for 220. Second one was off craigslist, and I bought it for the Schaller pickups that were in it, listed as a languedoc type guitar, the headstock has been stripped of his name. it too, was a piece of shit, with a wonk neck, goofy glue at the neck joint, sharp frets = shit. Dumped that body on the bay for 200ish as a project. Anybody that pays 1400 for one of these things, and likes it, is an asshole.
You just said you bought one on Ebay and it was junk... the question was why did you not use Ebay and PayPal to freeze my account and get your money back? Why would you instead decide to list it for $220 and lose $120.00? You don't make sense. You had plenty time to look it over and file a complaint... I am not the only one that cannot believe that story. Had one of your forum members call me today and could not believe it either.
Quote from: express50express on March 28, 2014, 04:55:59 PM
The site moderators just need to remove him from the forum for attempting to sell fakes, and lets just move on. Just be glad we responded so he doesn't screw anyone on this site. His login should have been removed after the first post.
I just got a sale today from a forum member. He has been watching what I been doing for a long time on another forum. Thanks
And I just got this email...
Hey Robert,
Just got the guitar today. Couldn't be more satisfied with my purchase. It is an absolutely beautiful instrument and plays and sounds like a dream. The Seymour Duncan's are amazing. I was expecting something good given the price tag, however this has somehow managed to exceed my already high expectations.
I foresee this guitar being my main axe for the rest of my life, I honestly cannot picture anything short of a real doc that I would prefer over this. Sounds just as good if not better than my friends $6,500 hollowbody PRS!
I have it running through a digitech whammy > 2x tube screamers > Ross compressor clone > fender super champ tube amp. And it sounds nearly identical to Trey's mid nineties tone.
Before this I had been playing one of the Phred Instruments docs, and I cannot stress enough how much better in every aspect your ollandoc is compared to a phred.
I am completely blown away and am just ecstatic right now. Just wanted to express my appreciation and gratitude and thank you so very much for crafting such a beautiful high end yet very reasonably priced languedoc clone.
Thanks again,
Bryan
RFLOL dude your ridiculous with your spam
Quote from: Arafel on March 28, 2014, 03:47:59 PM
I just joined SD a few weeks ago and hadn't posted yet, but this one brought me out. I checked your site out just because I was curious, and can't believe you can actually straight up lie with a straight face. Seriously, how do you sleep at night?
"Our Ollandoc Model is Similar to the Old 1975 Starcaster Body Style Languedoc France Style Guitar Copy Clone Replica."
Just admit that you are trying to steal Paul's design, get the headstock to match as close as possible without getting sued, and then sell cheap POS guitars to people who don't know any better because they want to pretend to be Trey.
You should pretty much just stop posting, because you only embarrass yourself more.
Was talking to one of your forum members today and he told me he had read an interview where Paul admitted that the Starcaster was his inspiration and just reduced the body size. That was back when he worked for Time... I think they may have wanted to keep the body shape as theirs. I know they named one of their guitars a Timecaster.
This guy said this about that - fucking judge joe brown in here
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: express50express on March 28, 2014, 04:55:59 PM
The site moderators just need to remove him from the forum for attempting to sell fakes, and lets just move on. Just be glad we responded so he doesn't screw anyone on this site. His login should have been removed after the first post.
I just got a sale today from a forum member. He has been watching what I been doing for a long time on another forum. Thanks
And I just got this email...
Hey Robert,
Just got the guitar today. Couldn't be more satisfied with my purchase. It is an absolutely beautiful instrument and plays and sounds like a dream. The Seymour Duncan's are amazing. I was expecting something good given the price tag, however this has somehow managed to exceed my already high expectations.
I foresee this guitar being my main axe for the rest of my life, I honestly cannot picture anything short of a real doc that I would prefer over this. Sounds just as good if not better than my friends $6,500 hollowbody PRS!
I have it running through a digitech whammy > 2x tube screamers > Ross compressor clone > fender super champ tube amp. And it sounds nearly identical to Trey's mid nineties tone.
Before this I had been playing one of the Phred Instruments docs, and I cannot stress enough how much better in every aspect your ollandoc is compared to a phred.
I am completely blown away and am just ecstatic right now. Just wanted to express my appreciation and gratitude and thank you so very much for crafting such a beautiful high end yet very reasonably priced languedoc clone.
Thanks again,
Bryan
My dog eats shit. Don't mean its any good.
Wait till his Ollancoc starts to fall apart.
He is just convincing himself its good after dropping dime - he will try the PRS again and realize he got ripped the f off.
I thought you weren't 'copying' Languedoc's anymore - why are you still comparing the two?
Thats it, i am buying one!
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 28, 2014, 09:13:55 PM
Was talking to one of your forum members today and he told me he had read an interview where Paul admitted that the Starcaster was his inspiration and just reduced the body size. That was back when he worked for Time... I think they may have wanted to keep the body shape as theirs. I know they named one of their guitars a Timecaster.
Go back to my first post where I stated this is "common knowledge."
Paul's Languedoc is miles from a Starcaster NOW (not sure about Time Co and thats outside of this argument):
1) Aesthetic Design:
- Contoured top (which you copied)
- Nicer Headstock (which you copied)
- Nicer shaped Horns (which you copied)
- Nicer Inlays (which you copied)
2) Construction: I don't know all the advancements in construction over a Starcaster, but some...
- Huge improvement from the bolt-on neck (which you copied)
- Bent sides (which you aren't skilled enough to do)
- Much improved bridge/tailpiece (which you tried to copy)
- Electronics (which you copied, even including where the knobs and switches are laid out, but apparently you can't even solder well, so your having the harness made for you)
- Fully (rather than semi) Hollow (which you copied)
3) Quality:
- I've never seen someone trying to cop Trey tones with a Startcaster. This is clear evidence that the 'Doc (style), in the opinion of Phish fans, adds a distinct quality over the original design. Any hollowbody with a similar construction to a 'Doc will be more similar to a 'Doc in tonal qualities than a Starcaster. This includes Gibsons, PRS, Artinger... not your POS.
4) Market:
Considering all these improvements over a Starcaster, as well as the price difference, and that Phish fans don't buy Starcasters, Paul is not stealing from Fender's market. His is totally distinct. (The fact that you won't give up on this thread evidences your attempt to steal Paul's market).
5) Mother f'in honesty:
PAUL ADMITS HIS INSPIRATION. HE WAS NEVER THREATENED WITH LEGAL ACTION BY FENDER BECAUSE HE HAS DONE NOTHING WRONG.
Paul deserves respect, you deserve a desert island (and you only get to take your own guitar with you).
RM OLSON GUITARS really doesnt have alot of info about them online? I wonder if most people know they are even made in China? Or do they get the impression that they are made in Arkansas? Interesting.
On a note of not bashing RMO, I did a bit of research into copyright. So as far as guitar bodyshapes/headstocks go, it looks like it would be a patent system. Fender and Gibson patented all of their models, and that's why they won the "lawsuit era" lawsuits - their patents hadn't expired. If PL has patented the G2 shape, RMO, Phred, even possibly Equator and other luthiers could all be slapped with patent infringement cases. However, if he's chosen to not, it's open season.
I have no legal experience whatsoever besides a intro-level law class last semester, this information is all from some heavy Googling/Wikipedia-ing. Take it with a grain of salt, it might even be wrong.
Quote from: No Nice Guy on March 29, 2014, 09:34:00 PM
On a note of not bashing RMO, I did a bit of research into copyright. So as far as guitar bodyshapes/headstocks go, it looks like it would be a patent system. Fender and Gibson patented all of their models, and that's why they won the "lawsuit era" lawsuits - their patents hadn't expired. If PL has patented the G2 shape, RMO, Phred, even possibly Equator and other luthiers could all be slapped with patent infringement cases. However, if he's chosen to not, it's open season.
I have no legal experience whatsoever besides a intro-level law class last semester, this information is all from some heavy Googling/Wikipedia-ing. Take it with a grain of salt, it might even be wrong.
It is a Trademark that Paul has not a Patent. It only covers one particular headstock. You can Google Trademarks and find it.
All "six inline" head stocks are pretty much 50% the same on the tuner side. So who copied who on that? When you consider the opposite side of the headstock, there are hundreds of different designs. Can anyone point out the all differences in theses two pictured below? Paul's lawyer can. In no way does mine look like the state of VT and I could apply for a Trademark of my own because they are so different.
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/headstocks1.jpg)
Here are some of the other differences I had to point out the the Lang lawyer.
In the pic below, you can see that that the horns on the Lang are somewhat rounded. Mine come to points and are not like either the Lang or Starcaster. By the way, I don't think Paul was wrong for modifing a Fender product. And I am not stealing from Paul's market. His market is rather small compared to all the people who cannot afford a guitar in that price range. Fact is that Paul will only make guitars for a handful of Phish fans... those with money.
In the pic below, I also pointed out that my body shape was closer to the Starcaster. Also my construction is different. Right now, I won't offer the bent sides because it would push the price to high. I have Phish fans that have asked me to build with laminates like a Gibson LP hollow body but I don't want them made out of laminates. Right now we start with a two piece mahogany body routed to full hollow with a maple cap. Maybe I could try the spruce cap but no one has asked for it. I do listen to the wants of my customers so I welcome your ideas. Best if you just email me though because you will just be put down if you voice yourself here. Well, I guess that's a known fact....
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/comparison.jpg)
Run-on sentences! Its a conspiracy!
Actually looking at ex. A further, and I can see it clearly now! You actually knocked off Equator who knocked of Languedoc, so yeah your totally the bottom bootie here.
See your real big problem is that Ive owned all those fucking guitars. In fact, Ive owned Phred instruments old version, one of the first equators, 2 of yours (one junk early version, one second hand by accident as the headstock was stripped, and it was unfinished), fingered the shit out of a couple docs... Just sayin' man, you kinda picked the most pretentious board on the web to come ramble off your bullshit. Your chinese guitars suck. Looking at just the ones I saw, basically, its just not a good guitar to try to build that way. It takes real luthier to do an archtop justice. If you argue with that than you really are insane. I understand you want to defend your brand, and I'm just stating the obvious, that any budget minded take on a Languedoc is going to be junk. All those wooden components, the internal bracing your not doing, etc etc etc. That takes ALOT of time, time you cannot afford at your price point. You also don't build any hollowbody guitars by hand, so it would be easy not to understand what I'm trying to tell you. But from my experience, there is alot of work that goes into one of those types of guitars. Much more than with a solid body guitar you can make in your garage.
Quote from: Poster on March 31, 2014, 11:34:52 AM
Run-on sentences! Its a conspiracy!
Actually looking at ex. A further, and I can see it clearly now! You actually knocked off Equator who knocked of Languedoc, so yeah your totally the bottom bootie here.
See your real big problem is that Ive owned all those fucking guitars. In fact, Ive owned Phred instruments old version, one of the first equators, 2 of yours (one junk early version, one second hand by accident as the headstock was stripped, and it was unfinished), fingered the shit out of a couple docs... Just sayin' man, you kinda picked the most pretentious board on the web to come ramble off your bullshit. Your chinese guitars suck. Looking at just the ones I saw, basically, its just not a good guitar to try to build that way. It takes real luthier to do an archtop justice. If you argue with that than you really are insane. I understand you want to defend your brand, and I'm just stating the obvious, that any budget minded take on a Languedoc is going to be junk. All those wooden components, the internal bracing your not doing, etc etc etc. That takes ALOT of time, time you cannot afford at your price point. You also don't build any hollowbody guitars by hand, so it would be easy not to understand what I'm trying to tell you. But from my experience, there is alot of work that goes into one of those types of guitars. Much more than with a solid body guitar you can make in your garage.
Lang copied Starcaster... Equator copied and I copied Equator. And like I said, I just built it as a proto type for a guy who wanted to sell that guitar model. Originally, I didn't know who Equator or Languedoc was. That guy gave me some new drawing with some some new changes.
It doesn't mean anything that you have owned all those guitars. You have an opinion about things and that's okay. Thing is, opinions are like rectums.... everyone has got one. Doesn't mean your opinion is right except to you. I have thousands of customers over the last five years and they don't think like you. Again, here is a quote from an email only a couple days old concerning his Ollandoc... and like usual for you... you can put him down too. He is also a member here and described you and your bodies as and I quote, "typical internet tough guy phish fans". Another forum member described you using your choice of language which fit you real well.
Here is that last thanks you email I received:
Just got the guitar today. Couldn't be more satisfied with my purchase. It is an absolutely beautiful instrument and plays and sounds like a dream. The Seymour Duncan's are amazing. I was expecting something good given the price tag, however this has somehow managed to exceed my already high expectations.
I foresee this guitar being my main axe for the rest of my life, I honestly cannot picture anything short of a real doc that I would prefer over this. Sounds just as good if not better than my friends $6,500 hollowbody PRS!
I have it running through a digitech whammy > 2x tube screamers > Ross compressor clone > fender super champ tube amp. And it sounds nearly identical to Trey's mid nineties tone.
Before this I had been playing one of the Phred Instruments docs, and I cannot stress enough how much better in every aspect your ollandoc is compared to a phred.
I am completely blown away and am just ecstatic right now. Just wanted to express my appreciation and gratitude and thank you so very much for crafting such a beautiful high end yet very reasonably priced languedoc clone.
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I did sell a kit one time that had some loose binding (that was a unfinished guitar kit... not a finished model) and I disclosed that fact. You are probably the guy who bought it and just wasn't talented enough to build the kit. Any guitar that did not have my logo was a guitar kit.
I will soon post pics of all the beautiful guitars people have built from my kits.
And, as you say, I guess you are bottom bootie under Heady Jan Fan!
R M is working on a Karma rating only to be topped by the great Posternutbag!
Olson - again I need to ask: what is your goal at this point?
Originally your goal seemed to be to get our approval of your frankly deluded justifications.
Now it seems your trying to sell your products to a group of people who overtly think your a dick bag.
I'm not religious, but I remember a rabbi once said: "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
You keep spewing bullshit and expecting us to react differently.
At first, I hoped you would take the respectable path and stop spouting your rationalizations.
Now I hope this thread reaches anyone considering buying one of your guitars and costs you the sale.
There are much better options from respectable companies.
I just had the opportunity to try one of your 2013 builds. It was the first owner who said he bought it directly from you and it had the logo, so by your own account, that would be a complete (rather than kit) model. The owner of the guitar is a teenager who started playing guitar about two years ago. Since then, he had saved his money from working full-time for two summers at an old-folks home. When he got the guitar, he was ecstatic and wrote you an email apparently pretty similar to the one you already posted twice in this thread: he said his email stated he loved the guitar, it was the best he'd tried and couldn't imagine anything better. He'd only played a Fernandez with a broken neck that someone fixed with wood-glue, plugged into a 25w Fender Frontman - it was the best guitar he'd played. However, he started having problems with his RiM-jibber Olson guitar and he could tell the guys at the guitar shop were not impressed by the craftsmanship - apparently it took two weeks and $100 out of this kids pocket to get it into 'playable' condition. He said he tried out a few more guitars at the music shop and his gut sank - he felt really ripped off and thats when he called me, to get the opinion of another Phish fan guitar player. I let him try my Artinger and he was completely blown away. When I tried the Ollandic, the guitar sounded completely dead - no resonance or liveliness. The neck was completely wonky - twisted so at the nut the high-e string was half a centimeter lower than the low-e string. The intonation was, not surprisingly given the neck, way off - I adjusted the intonation at the bridge and it improved somewhat. Also, the bridge was not grounded - if it ever had been, the soldering hadn't held up the past couple months (I tested the grounding with a multimeter from the bridge to the jack), so the guitar buzzed quite a bit with any dirt pedals. The pickups were also way out of position - one was too low, the other too high and I have to imagine a set of SD 59's would have been an improvement. And visually, the craftsmanship is just not there - the neck joint was messy with bubbles from the glue and/or finish, the fretwork was sloppy and I had to file a handful of them for this kid, the binding was uneven along the edge of the body sticking up past the wood, I could spot dust in the finish in several places.
The kid wanted a working-musicians guitar and figured it would be cool to have one that also looked like Trey's. Now he wasted two summers' earnings on a POS toy that is actually unplayable IMO: he's gone back to his Fernandez with a broken neck for the last three weeks. He feels pretty embarrassed and angry and asked me not to disclose any other personal details about him or the specifics of his guitar (such as the type of wood or when exactly he placed the order) - he doesn't want to think about it anymore. I told him if he helped me sell some of my stuff on Craigslist, he could keep some of the cash and I'd help him get a better guitar (he's interested in something like and SG), or I'd at least help him replace the neck on his Fernandez. He won't sell his Olson guitar because he doesn't think it would be morally right.
Olson, your not providing a service to these people, your ripping people off who don't know any better. The guitars I built in my parent's basement right after college free-handing with a jigsaw and router (the only two powered tools I had) played better - I sold one of them for the cost of parts ($140) and thought that was a fair price. I'd rather have a Cort, Rondo, Washburn or any of those other few-hundred-$ hollowbody guitars than the Olson - much more bang for buck because they actually play and your not just paying for a cheap look-alike built by a guy who is clearly being untruthful to himself and others.
I own an Olson guitar and I fucking love it!!!
Andrew Olson that is. 😎 God I feel bad for AO since these last names might confuse folks searching for reviews on guitars. Not to mention there is a third website for a completely different luthier called olsonguitars. Oh the fuckery.
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 31, 2014, 06:22:03 PM
Olson - again I need to ask: what is your goal at this point?
Originally your goal seemed to be to get our approval of your frankly deluded justifications.
Now it seems your trying to sell your products to a group of people who overtly think your a dick bag.
I'm not religious, but I remember a rabbi once said: "insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."
You keep spewing bullshit and expecting us to react differently.
At first, I hoped you would take the respectable path and stop spouting your rationalizations.
Now I hope this thread reaches anyone considering buying one of your guitars and costs you the sale.
There are much better options from respectable companies.
I just had the opportunity to try one of your 2013 builds. It was the first owner who said he bought it directly from you and it had the logo, so by your own account, that would be a complete (rather than kit) model. The owner of the guitar is a teenager who started playing guitar about two years ago. Since then, he had saved his money from working full-time for two summers at an old-folks home. When he got the guitar, he was ecstatic and wrote you an email apparently pretty similar to the one you already posted twice in this thread: he said his email stated he loved the guitar, it was the best he'd tried and couldn't imagine anything better. He'd only played a Fernandez with a broken neck that someone fixed with wood-glue, plugged into a 25w Fender Frontman - it was the best guitar he'd played. However, he started having problems with his RiM-jibber Olson guitar and he could tell the guys at the guitar shop were not impressed by the craftsmanship - apparently it took two weeks and $100 out of this kids pocket to get it into 'playable' condition. He said he tried out a few more guitars at the music shop and his gut sank - he felt really ripped off and thats when he called me, to get the opinion of another Phish fan guitar player. I let him try my Artinger and he was completely blown away. When I tried the Ollandic, the guitar sounded completely dead - no resonance or liveliness. The neck was completely wonky - twisted so at the nut the high-e string was half a centimeter lower than the low-e string. The intonation was, not surprisingly given the neck, way off - I adjusted the intonation at the bridge and it improved somewhat. Also, the bridge was not grounded - if it ever had been, the soldering hadn't held up the past couple months (I tested the grounding with a multimeter from the bridge to the jack), so the guitar buzzed quite a bit with any dirt pedals. The pickups were also way out of position - one was too low, the other too high and I have to imagine a set of SD 59's would have been an improvement. And visually, the craftsmanship is just not there - the neck joint was messy with bubbles from the glue and/or finish, the fretwork was sloppy and I had to file a handful of them for this kid, the binding was uneven along the edge of the body sticking up past the wood, I could spot dust in the finish in several places.
The kid wanted a working-musicians guitar and figured it would be cool to have one that also looked like Trey's. Now he wasted two summers' earnings on a POS toy that is actually unplayable IMO: he's gone back to his Fernandez with a broken neck for the last three weeks. He feels pretty embarrassed and angry and asked me not to disclose any other personal details about him or the specifics of his guitar (such as the type of wood or when exactly he placed the order) - he doesn't want to think about it anymore. I told him if he helped me sell some of my stuff on Craigslist, he could keep some of the cash and I'd help him get a better guitar (he's interested in something like and SG), or I'd at least help him replace the neck on his Fernandez. He won't sell his Olson guitar because he doesn't think it would be morally right.
Olson, your not providing a service to these people, your ripping people off who don't know any better. The guitars I built in my parent's basement right after college free-handing with a jigsaw and router (the only two powered tools I had) played better - I sold one of them for the cost of parts ($140) and thought that was a fair price. I'd rather have a Cort, Rondo, Washburn or any of those other few-hundred-$ hollowbody guitars than the Olson - much more bang for buck because they actually play and your not just paying for a cheap look-alike built by a guy who is clearly being untruthful to himself and others.
Your not even a good story teller... because your phoney story is full of holes. Like spending a two weeks and $100.00 for a luthier to get it into playable condition and then you find one pickup high and one pickup low. Then you give this line how you tried it and its all of a sudden dead with a twisted neck.. Like other members of this forum have told me about you... your just full of bull... And then how you built guitars... do you forget your own thread about how you were putting in new pickups and screwed them all up?
This thread has been great for me... new sales new inquiries.
People are not fooled by you guys... forum members have told me how they see right through your and Posters bull. Or as Happyorange27 called him
the great Posternutbag!
Its all a conspiracy! Your weird ass copied fake emails from "new sales" are far out man. You need therapy. Maybe you should have your chinese guitars made in korea, that way you can call it the Kolondoc? ;D If you don't like the fact people dont like your guitars, your in the wrong fucking industry dude. If there is anything on the planet that people are finicky about its guitars. So yeah, your guitars are chinese made pieces of shit. If you buy one, hope you know a good luthier to set um up, and plenty of cash lying around to polish your chinese guitar.
ITS A TROLL! :o
RM, posternutbag is obviously a Phish reference and a term of endearment to my friend Poster. He and I are cool together. He didn't earn his negative karma as truly as you did here. So I'm sorry you haven't been around long enough to get that I'm actually being sarcastic. Troll away man.
And never rip on Heady. You truly have no idea how awesome that cat is. We talk all the time on the phone. Dude is about as real and intelligent as hell. Ignorance and hate will not get you far.
Aww das so nice :D
Quote from: Happyorange27 on March 31, 2014, 08:44:44 PM
And never rip on Heady. You truly have no idea how awesome that cat is. We talk all the time on the phone. Dude is about as real and intelligent as hell. Ignorance and hate will not get you far.
Yea right... I wants to act like he knows it all and he gives advice on installing pickups too right?
Here is part of his own post that showed me he doesn't know squat about wiring...
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New pickups and wiring (Lollar content)
« on: August 08, 2012, 07:42:09 PM »
I finally got my Lollar Imperials installed in my guitar, after 18 days!
I tried it myself and it seemed to work until I reinstalled all the electronics, I think I messed up something putting it all back together. Rather than spend another three hours I decided to take it to a tech ASAP...
So two days later I took it to a place I used to go to religiously until three years ago when they f'ed up installing a single coil Huh then I went to try fuzz pedals a few months ago and not a single sales person knew anything about them, so I gave them a lesson a fuzz. But they said they could fix it that day, called me back 9 days later saying the wiring schema just couldn't possibly work, lol, I hadn't changed anything, but they wouldn't believe me.
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Instead of spending three hours and knowing he couldn't fix it!!! LOL
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 31, 2014, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on March 31, 2014, 08:44:44 PM
And never rip on Heady. You truly have no idea how awesome that cat is. We talk all the time on the phone. Dude is about as real and intelligent as hell. Ignorance and hate will not get you far.
Yea right... I wants to act like he knows it all and he gives advice on installing pickups too right?
Here is part of his own post that showed me he doesn't know squat about wiring...
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New pickups and wiring (Lollar content)
« on: August 08, 2012, 07:42:09 PM »
I finally got my Lollar Imperials installed in my guitar, after 18 days!
I tried it myself and it seemed to work until I reinstalled all the electronics, I think I messed up something putting it all back together. Rather than spend another three hours I decided to take it to a tech ASAP...
So two days later I took it to a place I used to go to religiously until three years ago when they f'ed up installing a single coil Huh then I went to try fuzz pedals a few months ago and not a single sales person knew anything about them, so I gave them a lesson a fuzz. But they said they could fix it that day, called me back 9 days later saying the wiring schema just couldn't possibly work, lol, I hadn't changed anything, but they wouldn't believe me.
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Instead of spending three hours and knowing he couldn't fix it!!! LOL
Great business model, lying on forum visited by the only people who might be your customers then insulting people. Wiring a hollowbody is tough, that was my first try and I posted because I'm not embarrassed or trying to hide that I messed it up. But you fancy yourself a Luthier and you have someone else do the electronics? I don't want to have messed up electronics in an awesome guitar, you've probably never played an awesome guitar.
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Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on March 31, 2014, 10:45:40 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on March 31, 2014, 09:45:42 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on March 31, 2014, 08:44:44 PM
And never rip on Heady. You truly have no idea how awesome that cat is. We talk all the time on the phone. Dude is about as real and intelligent as hell. Ignorance and hate will not get you far.
Yea right... I wants to act like he knows it all and he gives advice on installing pickups too right?
Here is part of his own post that showed me he doesn't know squat about wiring...
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New pickups and wiring (Lollar content)
« on: August 08, 2012, 07:42:09 PM »
I finally got my Lollar Imperials installed in my guitar, after 18 days!
I tried it myself and it seemed to work until I reinstalled all the electronics, I think I messed up something putting it all back together. Rather than spend another three hours I decided to take it to a tech ASAP...
So two days later I took it to a place I used to go to religiously until three years ago when they f'ed up installing a single coil Huh then I went to try fuzz pedals a few months ago and not a single sales person knew anything about them, so I gave them a lesson a fuzz. But they said they could fix it that day, called me back 9 days later saying the wiring schema just couldn't possibly work, lol, I hadn't changed anything, but they wouldn't believe me.
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Instead of spending three hours and knowing he couldn't fix it!!! LOL
Great business model, lying on forum visited by the only people who might be your customers then insulting people. Wiring a hollowbody is tough, that was my first try and I posted because I'm not embarrassed or trying to hide that I messed it up. But you fancy yourself a Luthier and you have someone else do the electronics? I don't want to have messed up electronics in an awesome guitar, you've probably never played an awesome guitar.
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Just like I have did in my construction business... you don't try to do all the work yourself. Lot better to work as a manager than a trying to do all the labor yourself. If all I sold was few guitars a year, that would be a different story. But I do install all of the harnesses and because I have them so well made, they slide in so easily I can have a harness in about 10 minutes.
You are one of the last people who to should talk about insulting people... its your nature. Anyway, I was just restating what you yourself said in a previous post.
Here I will give you something else to insult me with. I sell a lot of hollow and semi hollow guitar kits. These pics were sent in by my customers. Most were built by members of different forums. You can bash them like you have the people who have bought my Ollandoc's. Well, maybe it was wasn't you that called them assholes but I can go back and see what you referred to them as.
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build1)(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build6)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build2)(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build77)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build3)(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build8)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build4)(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build9)
(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build5)(http://www.rmolsonguitars.com/Build10)
More chinese glue guitars. And by the way, this isnt name calling, this is describing the pictures as simply, concisely, and accurately as possible. I'm glad the nascar forums dig your bright and in charge semi hollow guitars. I bet they sound just like the Gibson's you ripped off. Oh wait, no, no they dont sound like that at all. How would I know? I took the time to put some nice Gibson guts, into a chinese made 335 before, still just a glued up piece of shit, with good electronics. Why not sell 10 quality guitars a year? Instead of thousands of shit guitars? Are you going to post more pictures purple flame maple laminate childrens guitars? RM OLSON Guitars = Conceived in Arkansas
Quote from: Poster on April 01, 2014, 11:52:38 AM
More chinese glue guitars. And by the way, this isnt name calling, this is describing the pictures as simply, concisely, and accurately as possible. I'm glad the nascar forums dig your bright and in charge semi hollow guitars. I bet they sound just like the Gibson's you ripped off. Oh wait, no, no they dont sound like that at all. How would I know? I took the time to put some nice Gibson guts, into a chinese made 335 before, still just a glued up piece of shit, with good electronics. Why not sell 10 quality guitars a year? Instead of thousands of shit guitars? Are you going to post more pictures purple flame maple laminate childrens guitars? RM OLSON Guitars = Conceived in Arkansas
Gibson's 335 style guitars are laminate and so are all the other so called name brand guitars... Gibson, Fender and the rest have Asian made guitars. The average guy has the same as they can't afford a Gibson (or any other shop) custom shop made model.
Apparently no children are allowed on this forum as long as big mouths like yours are allowed... people see right through your bull.
Quote from: Happyorange27 on March 31, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
RM, posternutbag is obviously a Phish reference and a term of endearment to my friend Poster. He and I are cool together. He didn't earn his negative karma as truly as you did here. So I'm sorry you haven't been around long enough to get that I'm actually being sarcastic. Troll away man.
People from this forum have said Poster has been on people's asses for a long long time so no doubt plenty of that Karma is well deserved. With a mouth like that, his mom must have always been out of soap...
OH snap mom joke.
Quote from: Buffered on April 01, 2014, 01:53:48 PM
OH snap mom joke.
No one should talk about Mrs. Poster ;)
I hope you keep posting more bullshit so its easier for other people to find this discussion. Screen captured everything he posted for future reference.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 01, 2014, 01:51:23 PM
People from this forum have said Poster has been on people's asses for a long long time so no doubt plenty of that Karma is well deserved. With a mouth like that, his mom must have always been out of soap...
Anyone who gets to know poster likes him. One reason people like him is because he doesn't sugarcoat anything.
You also presuppose Poster, or anyone, would care if someone is bad-mouthing him behind our back.
If that is even true, and the person really cared or wanted to support you, they'd post in this thread.
And thats only "if" its true - after your ridiculous arguments posted in this thread, no one believes you about anything.
On that note, I happened across one of the reviews you quoted - the one where the fella said "the best statement for the quality of RMOlsen guitars is more the fact that there just aren't any used RMOlsen guitars to be bought." If you read beyond the first post, the thesis would be that your guitars are ok - what you'd expect to get - for $200: at that price you expect blemishes in the finish, glue on the fretboard. There were closeup pics of a tele that frankly looked like a novice built it - and thats fine to sell novice-quality instruments at that price IF thats how you market them. The problem is that your misrepresenting the quality of your guitars and the price your asking for these hollowbodies are far beyond what one ought to pay for novice quality work. Not to mention, hollowbodies are harder to build, thus your quality has dropped off compared to the tele. Quoting only positive reviews, or reviews out of context like the one I quoted above, only continues to misrepresent yourself. From the start of this thread, all I asked of you was that you were truthful to us and yourself and I would at least respect that. I do not see any honesty and I can't see how anyone would trust you to build them a $1,200 guitar.
Those kits of your that other people finished look better than the ones you finished, even those I think most of those finishes are really cheesy, but thats just my opinion.
I'm still baffled how you can rationalize coming on a Phish fan-base forum, a guest and outsider, stealing from a fundamental person Phish's history whom we all respect, slandering him, misrepresenting yourself and your work, insulting us, and, on top of that, trying to market something.
Quote from: Poster on April 01, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
I hope you keep posting more bullshit so its easier for other people to find this discussion. Screen captured everything he posted for future reference.
Yeah, I used the "print" button on the top right.
But I'd be happier if RM just deleted the thread and never posted on this forum again.
Why not go try and sell some snake oil over on phantasytour? See if they have a different opinion?
Quote from: Buffered on April 01, 2014, 04:20:00 PM
Why not go try and sell some snake oil over on phantasytour? See if they have a different opinion?
Or PhishNet
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 01, 2014, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: Poster on April 01, 2014, 02:22:47 PM
I hope you keep posting more bullshit so its easier for other people to find this discussion. Screen captured everything he posted for future reference.
Yeah, I used the "print" button on the top right.
But I'd be happier if RM just deleted the thread and never posted on this forum again.
Looks like you and Poster only have a couple real followers. I guess they think you are the voice of the community.
Had another member send me a PM.... interesting too! First, seems Poster had admin privilege's but had been caught deleting
a bunch a incriminating posts of his. Maybe part of why he got the big bad karma rating. And how two faced...Seems in 2010, he deleted posts about him talking about getting doc clones made himself. What a piece of work... You can spend some time digging up those facts and if you can't seem to find them, I can put up the URL to the page. See, he couldn't delete another members post where the member quoted Poster. I am sure more and more will come out...
Everything he has said, is nothing but bull... all he got going for himself is his dirty mouth and I really don't know where that comes in handy!
yeah I never did because I had no idea what I was talking about AND ITS A TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA. I bought a couple chinese guitars around that time like 4-5 years ago, 335 oscar schmidt crap and put nice electronics in them, and then gave them to my friends i jammed with as presents. WOW! Diabolical?! I wanted to see what it would sound like, as for a second I thought maybe it was all snake oil or something. And it turned out not to be. You cant beat quality hand made guitars. There is nothing quite like it. And also, I deleted all of my posts before leaving the site for a few years, as I didnt want to share my posts anymore?! Like all posts. Nothing in there but just a bunch of nerds talking guitar pedals. You are such a douche. I'm glad this is pissing you off, this is a forum where we help people with their gear. Have fun!
And you did bring up an interesting memory, when I found out you could inquire to the factories to build anything. Super weird industry. Thats kinda when I started dumping any guitar that wasnt made in america/mexico/canada. But looks like you have plenty of time on your hands to looks through five year old threads? You should look for the one where we talk about the -1 octave down whammy thing, or the relays? The relays was a good conversation from 3 years ago?
Your like a shit covered rat squeeking and scratching to get out of your mess. Fucking ripping off some really talented people man, under paying labor, making shite, all the while insulting anybody that questions your bizarre reasoning. Fucking epic
Quote from: Poster on April 02, 2014, 11:32:56 PM
yeah I never did because I had no idea what I was talking about AND ITS A TERRIBLE FUCKING IDEA. I bought a couple chinese guitars around that time like 4-5 years ago, 335 oscar schmidt crap and put nice electronics in them, and then gave them to my friends i jammed with as presents. WOW! Diabolical?! I wanted to see what it would sound like, as for a second I thought maybe it was all snake oil or something. And it turned out not to be. You cant beat quality hand made guitars. There is nothing quite like it. And also, I deleted all of my posts are going from being a mod as I didnt want to share my posts anymore?! Like all posts. Nothing in there but just a bunch of nerds talking guitar pedals. You are such a douche. I'm glad this is pissing you off, this is a forum where we help people with their gear. Have fun!
And you did bring up an interesting memory, when I found out you could inquire to the factories to build anything. Super weird industry. Thats kinda when I started dumping any guitar that wasnt made in america/mexico/canada. But looks like you have plenty of time on your hands to looks through five year old threads? You should look for the one where we talk about the -1 octave down whammy thing, or the relays? The relays was a good stoned conversation from 3 years ago?
I really like your last post where the real you comes out... like the first line "yeah I never did because I had no idea what I was talking" NOW THAT"S THE TRUTH posted by POSTER
Why did you lose your admin privilege?
And how brain dead are you? I started off by saying that I got a PM from another member and he pointed out those thing aside from you being a liar which I forgot to mention. And the lies keep on coming... how you dumped all you guitars that weren't made in america/mexico/canada.... but just a few posts you talk about the guitars you bought and you didn't care about if they were from america/mexico/canada or where they were from. Just what is better about a guitar from Mexico or an Asian country?
I didn't need to look up the old threads that show what a two faced liar you are. Other members are doing that for me... seems they got you pegged.
Okokok...finally jumping in here. As fun as this thread is, we've beat the horse dead, it's been processed to dog food, and is now being shit out by pooches everywhere. Well done.
rmolsonguitars, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks of Poster, I am not sure why you continue down the path you cannot win but you might want to peddle yourself elsewhere as you're not winning any friends here and it seems as though you're only digging yourself deeper with some of your comments. I'm politely asking you not to advertise your business any further in this forum as it seems the overwhelming majority of our members are not interested in your products. I just don't feel it's going to be productive for your or our members. If you'd like to continue talking about Phish, tabs, gear, etc. then have at it.
Quote from: Walker done done on April 03, 2014, 11:23:53 AM
Okokok...finally jumping in here. As fun as this thread is, we've beat the horse dead, it's been processed to dog food, and is now being shit out by pooches everywhere. Well done.
rmolsonguitars, regardless of what you or anyone else thinks of Poster, I am not sure why you continue down the path you cannot win but you might want to peddle yourself elsewhere as you're not winning any friends here and it seems as though you're only digging yourself deeper with some of your comments. I'm politely asking you not to advertise your business any further in this forum as it seems the overwhelming majority of our members are not interested in your products. I just don't feel it's going to be productive for your or our members. If you'd like to continue talking about Phish, tabs, gear, etc. then have at it.
Thanks Walker! Well said.
Thanks Walker. RM, don't piss him off. He is an Admin yo!
"Our Ollandoc Model is Similar to the old 1975 Starcaster Body Style Languedoc France Style Guitar Copy Clone Replica"
OK then show me what a Languedoc France Style Guitar looks like and how you replicate them.
Quote from: Happyorange27 on April 09, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
"Our Ollandoc Model is Similar to the old 1975 Starcaster Body Style Languedoc France Style Guitar Copy Clone Replica"
^"If my sentences make no sense, no one can argue with me."
Is that kind of like Gandum Style?
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/psy-gangnam-style-1.jpg) (http://s1239.photobucket.com/user/happyorange27/media/psy-gangnam-style-1.jpg.html)
A+
my coworkers are all staring at me
be on the lookout for notes pleading for food and water hidden inside of the plastic bound f holes, didn't you guys hear about that with walmart Halloween decorations last year?
What kind of guitars do you own now and what type of binding do you prefer?
The use of words is all about traffic... and I thank you for all the emails I have received
commenting about how little they think of you here on the forum. Of course its great you
have a few bullies or big mouths to stand up for you.
There are plenty of guitars made in the USA that I sure wouldn't care to own
and much prefer having my own made to my specs. Of course, I am sure I would trash
them if they were made by you or the other big mouths here on the forum.
(http://www.wildsoundmovies.com/images/anchorman_poop_mouth.jpg)
Your posts are so you...
Dude......fuck off!!
Seriously, go fuck yourself, Olsen. You're not welcome here.
Kinda just makes you think, are people really this stupid in Arkansas? Hailing from the Mid South, I can assure you that yes, yes indeed, people from Arkansas can be this stupid.
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
The Ollandoc's I sell, look great and sound great with their USA made wiring and with the pickups
made in Seymour Duncan's custom shop. You would not know, because you have never played one.
You have an opinion and you are entitled to it... but opinions are like assholes, everyone one has one.
Great that we can agree to disagree and even better that those who love my guitars are not so narrow minded.
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Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
The Ollandoc's I sell, look great and sound great with their USA made wiring and with the pickups
made in Seymour Duncan's custom shop. You would not know, because you have never played one.
You have an opinion and you are entitled to it... but opinions are like assholes, everyone one has one.
Great that we can agree to disagree and even better that those who love my guitars are not so narrow minded.
whatever pal, go hock your shitty shit somewhere else and keep Seymour out of this.
Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 12:06:46 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 13, 2014, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
The Ollandoc's I sell, look great and sound great with their USA made wiring and with the pickups
made in Seymour Duncan's custom shop. You would not know, because you have never played one.
You have an opinion and you are entitled to it... but opinions are like assholes, everyone one has one.
Great that we can agree to disagree and even better that those who love my guitars are not so narrow minded.
whatever pal, go hock your shitty shit somewhere else and keep Seymour out of this.
In reality, how can a person judge something he has not tried? And Seymour Duncan makes the pickups
for this line of guitars so I can't keep them out of this. People always ask what type of pickups a guitar
has. Seymour Duncan pickups are in here to stay....
Come on people. Give this guy a chance. These are guenuine France Languedoc inspired guitars, but not Paul Languedoc inspired guitars. They might have just a teensey, weensey bit less quality than the French ones, but Europe is next to Asia, and damnit that is close enough am I right! Don't knock it till you've tried it. Seriously don't even knock on the guitar because it might initiate a crack in the Elmers glue joint.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 13, 2014, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
The Ollandoc's I sell, look great and sound great with their USA made wiring and with the pickups
made in Seymour Duncan's custom shop. You would not know, because you have never played one.
You have an opinion and you are entitled to it... but opinions are like assholes, everyone one has one.
Great that we can agree to disagree and even better that those who love my guitars are not so narrow minded.
You say he's entitled to his opinion, then you invalidate his opinion by calling him narrow minded? Kinda sounds like a contradiction to me.
Everyone who has tried one on this forum said they think their very poorly built.
Seymour Duncans are good pickups and I'm glad to hear your doing something right, but putting new tires on a beat car doesn't make it a Ferrari. It makes it a waste of tires.
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 13, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 13, 2014, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
The Ollandoc's I sell, look great and sound great with their USA made wiring and with the pickups
made in Seymour Duncan's custom shop. You would not know, because you have never played one.
You have an opinion and you are entitled to it... but opinions are like assholes, everyone one has one.
Great that we can agree to disagree and even better that those who love my guitars are not so narrow minded.
You say he's entitled to his opinion, then you invalidate his opinion by calling him narrow minded? Kinda sounds like a contradiction to me.
Everyone who has tried one on this forum said they think their very poorly built.
Seymour Duncans are good pickups and I'm glad to hear your doing something right, but putting new tires on a beat car doesn't make it a Ferrari. It makes it a waste of tires.
No one is trying to make a Ferrari or a hand built $10,000 guitar. Just supplying a demanding market of people that want a full hollow guitar made with no plywoods or laminates and with decent hardware. No one else has did that without hitting the $5,000.00 dollar mark. Unfortunately, that is ut of the price range of the average person. Anyone here could go into business and offer them another alternative.
No one has tried the new models with the USA made harnesses and Seymour Duncan pickups so not much room to judge on that. All I have heard so far is some one built a kit or tried someone else kit. One reference was made to someone buying a kit to get a high dollar set of pickups... I quite believe that to be one of the many stories told by that poster.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 13, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 13, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
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Quote from: Buffered on April 13, 2014, 11:25:29 AM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 12, 2014, 06:43:24 PM
Thanks for keeping this thread going... because of you great guys, I just got another sale today.
Best Regards to all of you...
Does it feel good leading people down the wrong path?
The Ollandoc's I sell, look great and sound great with their USA made wiring and with the pickups
made in Seymour Duncan's custom shop. You would not know, because you have never played one.
You have an opinion and you are entitled to it... but opinions are like assholes, everyone one has one.
Great that we can agree to disagree and even better that those who love my guitars are not so narrow minded.
You say he's entitled to his opinion, then you invalidate his opinion by calling him narrow minded? Kinda sounds like a contradiction to me.
Everyone who has tried one on this forum said they think their very poorly built.
Seymour Duncans are good pickups and I'm glad to hear your doing something right, but putting new tires on a beat car doesn't make it a Ferrari. It makes it a waste of tires.
No one is trying to make a Ferrari or a hand built $10,000 guitar. Just supplying a demanding market of people that want a full hollow guitar made with no plywoods or laminates and with decent hardware. No one else has did that without hitting the $5,000.00 dollar mark. Unfortunately, that is 0ut of the price range of the average person. Anyone here could go into business and offer them another alternative.
No one has tried the new models with the USA made harnesses and Seymour Duncan pickups so not much room to judge on that. All I have heard so far is some one built a kit or tried someone else kit. One reference was made to someone buying a kit to get a high dollar set of pickups... I quite believe that to be one of the many stories told by that poster.
This guy reminds me of Vanilla Ice. "I didn't steal the beat from Under Pressure....I changed a beat from a 1/4 note to an 1/8th note" HAHA...you suck balls dude...go away!
Nice try... I will give you credit for that.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 13, 2014, 11:48:14 PM
Nice try... I will give you credit for that.
For S'in the D?
Here are a couple video clips one of my customers sent in today. You can make fun of him all you want... he is like me, your negative comments will just go in one ear and out the other.
All of the new Ollandoc models come with the USA made wiring harness made by http://www.bcsguitars.com (http://www.bcsguitars.com) and have the Seymour Duncan SH-1 pickups.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7UfCy_PG1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYuJlPs-Pws
Thanks for posting the video four times.
Quote from: Happyorange27 on April 14, 2014, 09:42:52 PM
Thanks for posting the video four times.
Its two different videos. I started a new thread because many people will never see it here but
probably did need to be here to end this thread.
Thanks and Best Regards to you all.
OK, now post a video that proves you aren't a scumbag.
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 14, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
OK, now post a video that proves you aren't a scumbag.
Oh that post didn't?
Thanks and Best Regards to you!
You seem pretty hung up for in one ear, out the other.
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Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 15, 2014, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 14, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
OK, now post a video that proves you aren't a scumbag.
Oh that post didn't?
Not even close. That video was about the guitars you sell. I think you're a scumbag because of how you sell them.
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 15, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 15, 2014, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 14, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
OK, now post a video that proves you aren't a scumbag.
Oh that post didn't?
Not even close. That video was about the guitars you sell. I think you're a scumbag because of how you sell them.
No one over hear care about your opinion... I have said it before and I guess you missed it but opinions are like a holes... everyone has one.
Best Regards
If no one over "hear" cares about my opinion, then why is that everyone who has posted "hear" says pretty much what I do, which is that (a) you're a scumbag; and (b) you're not welcome?
And, yes, opinions are like assholes, but perhaps more to the point, you are an asshole. Go ahead and have the last word, you illiterate hillbilly motherfucker. I'm done wasting time with you.
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 15, 2014, 03:31:40 PM
If no one over "hear" cares about my opinion, then why is that everyone who has posted "hear" says pretty much what I do, which is that (a) you're a scumbag; and (b) you're not welcome?
And, yes, opinions are like assholes, but perhaps more to the point, you are an asshole. Go ahead and have the last word, you illiterate hillbilly motherfucker. I'm done wasting time with you.
I am illiterate? You no doubt had to check the dictionary for that big word... but you should have also checked how to spell the word HERE. That really shows who the illiterate one is.
You don't have to read what I post... the people who care respond to me direct by PM or my email.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 15, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 15, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 15, 2014, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 14, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
OK, now post a video that proves you aren't a scumbag.
Oh that post didn't?
Not even close. That video was about the guitars you sell. I think you're a scumbag because of how you sell them.
No one over hear care about your opinion... I have said it before and I guess you missed it but opinions are like a holes... everyone has one.
Best Regards
That was your post. You spelled hear wrong. Please leave, and stop spreading bad vibes in our nice community.
Where's the money Lebowski? Bunny says you're good for it!
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Quote from: Buffered on April 15, 2014, 04:55:12 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 15, 2014, 12:46:23 PM
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 15, 2014, 12:38:17 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 15, 2014, 02:27:30 AM
Quote from: Mister Buddy on April 14, 2014, 10:51:01 PM
OK, now post a video that proves you aren't a scumbag.
Oh that post didn't?
Not even close. That video was about the guitars you sell. I think you're a scumbag because of how you sell them.
No one over hear care about your opinion... I have said it before and I guess you missed it but opinions are like a holes... everyone has one.
Best Regards
That was your post. You spelled hear wrong. Please leave, and stop spreading bad vibes in our nice community.
That was part of Mister Bundy's quote... he is the one who can't spell here as "hear".. that really doesn't matter.
What matters is that this community is 351 members strong but there are only about 10 of you who think you rule the roost. I have that many people emailing me telling me what jerks you guys can be and in fact the guy on video clip is also a member who just bought one of my newest models.
No.. you said that. Same line as your asshole catchphrase, asshole.
I seem to be out of cookies and gold stars, but thank you for sharing.
You are the minority... you just think people listen to you. There are only about ten of you
out of 351 members and you think you run the show.
I will let you think you are King Tut...(better yet Wizard of Oz hiding behind your keyboard) yes, you are the master... we all bow to you great one.
as you wish... I will not post anymore
for awhile... I am going out of town.
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 16, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
You are the minority... you just think people listen to you. There are only about ten of you
out of 351 members and you think you run the show.
I will let you think you are King Tut...(better yet Wizard of Oz hiding behind your keyboard) yes, you are the master... we all bow to you great one.
as you wish... I will not post anymore
for awhile... I am going out of town.
Never once did I say or imply anything remotely near that. You make no sense, and your products are a disgrace to the Languedoc tradition. ;D
Quote from: Buffered on April 16, 2014, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 16, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
You are the minority... you just think people listen to you. There are only about ten of you
out of 351 members and you think you run the show.
I will let you think you are King Tut...(better yet Wizard of Oz hiding behind your keyboard) yes, you are the master... we all bow to you great one.
as you wish... I will not post anymore
for awhile... I am going out of town.
Never once did I say or imply anything remotely near that. You make no sense, and your products are a disgrace to the Languedoc tradition. ;D
You are the minority here... I have people here claiming my guitars are great... check out the videos made by one of the forum members. There are a lot more of them on YouTube at least 15 and there are more coming that people will send to me soon. The guitar in the video is my newest model.
Your forum member was the second guy to make a video using that model. Soon I will have videos I can post by some other forum members. Until then.
Best Regards
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 16, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
You are the minority... you just think people listen to you. There are only about ten of you
out of 351 members and you think you run the show.
I will let you think you are King Tut...(better yet Wizard of Oz hiding behind your keyboard) yes, you are the master... we all bow to you great one.
as you wish... I will not post anymore
for awhile... I am going out of town.
Haha, oh man....
There are 351 usernames registered? Ok, cool I guess...
The forum is probably close to a decade old - a lot of those users haven't been on for years. I have dozens of memberships I never used.
Most of those people probably don't even know their password.
IIRC there was an influx of fake and duplicate memberships about a year ago. A lot of those 'members' weren't ever even real in the first place.
Only about 15 members have been actively posting in the past 6 months. I think I counted 15 members posting in this thread.
All 15 them expressed dislike for your, your presence here, your lies, your crappy instruments.
Thats 100% dislike for you on this website buddy.
Stop lying that some mystery members are sending you private messages supporting you.
- Every single person has written in this thread that they think your a dick.
- If there was a member who wanted to back you up, they'd post here (but I know thats not true because...)
- The site tracks who has logged in - it even says who's currently online at the bottom of the homepage - we can tell when your lying and saying other people are sending you messages saying they support you.
Using the number 351 for a comparison is like doing a U.S. census and including all the dead people too.
Hell, some of those 351 might not even be kickin' it on this earth, but I'm sure their rollin' in their grave...
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 16, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
I have people here claiming my guitars are great...
"Claiming" connotes lying.
I agree anyone "claiming" your guitar is great is lying.
And you are the only one here who has said your guitars are great.
So your implying that your lying that your own guitars are great?
This thread is still happening why? Just let him sell his guitars already. Who cares if they suck? Why does it bother everyone that he's an idiot?
I agree with Cactus. There is no reason for name calling or bashing. I've only chimed in to defend folks here and maybe to be a bit sarcastic. But insults will only lead to insults. You know he won't stop if folks keep jabbing. Know when to call it a day. Save your energy for better things.
It's Spaceball 1! They've gone to plaid!
Quote from: cactuskeeb on April 16, 2014, 05:39:07 PM
This thread is still happening why? Just let him sell his guitars already. Who cares if they suck? Why does it bother everyone that he's an idiot?
Agreed. I used to like logging in to this forum. This place was a wealth of knowledge. Not anymore. Everyday its more and "More History of Languedoc". BORING!!!
Get a life folks, and lets talk cool stuff again! Let it go, please!
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 16, 2014, 03:42:47 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 16, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
I have people here claiming my guitars are great...
"Claiming" connotes lying.
I agree anyone "claiming" your guitar is great is lying.
And you are the only one here who has said your guitars are great.
So your implying that your lying that your own guitars are great?
You made the post above... calling any person who likes my guitars in the least
and they mention it... a liar. Twisted it however you want. You can't stand it when
a forum member here is talking highly about the guitar he bought from me.
Has anyone stopped to take a look at what can be discussed here?
Strange Design Forums > Gear Heads > Guitars
Its guitars, even if those are guitars you don't like... hey, start a thread about guitars you like.
Move the action over to a new thread. Start a new thread where I can jerk your chain awhile.
I will lay low awhile, I am going out of town anyway. But soon I will have more
videos from other forum members.
Don't fool yourself girl, it's goin right up your poopshoot...
Quote from: Walker done done on April 03, 2014, 11:23:53 AM
rmolsonguitars I'm politely asking you not to advertise your business any further in this forum as it seems the overwhelming majority of our members are not interested in your products. I just don't feel it's going to be productive for your or our members.
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 16, 2014, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: rmolsonguitars on April 16, 2014, 02:32:26 PM
You are the minority... you just think people listen to you. There are only about ten of you
out of 351 members and you think you run the show.
I will let you think you are King Tut...(better yet Wizard of Oz hiding behind your keyboard) yes, you are the master... we all bow to you great one.
as you wish... I will not post anymore
for awhile... I am going out of town.
Haha, oh man....
There are 351 usernames registered? Ok, cool I guess...
The forum is probably close to a decade old - a lot of those users haven't been on for years. I have dozens of memberships I never used.
Most of those people probably don't even know their password.
IIRC there was an influx of fake and duplicate memberships about a year ago. A lot of those 'members' weren't ever even real in the first place.
Only about 15 members have been actively posting in the past 6 months. I think I counted 15 members posting in this thread.
All 15 them expressed dislike for your, your presence here, your lies, your crappy instruments.
Thats 100% dislike for you on this website buddy.
Stop lying that some mystery members are sending you private messages supporting you.
- Every single person has written in this thread that they think your a dick.
- If there was a member who wanted to back you up, they'd post here (but I know thats not true because...)
- The site tracks who has logged in - it even says who's currently online at the bottom of the homepage - we can tell when your lying and saying other people are sending you messages saying they support you.
Using the number 351 for a comparison is like doing a U.S. census and including all the dead people too.
Hell, some of those 351 might not even be kickin' it on this earth, but I'm sure their rollin' in their grave...
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Wow. So your saying you 15 make up the whole membership of the forum. So the guy on the video doing the review is #16
So you 15 have viewed this thread a couple thousand times?
I guess there are a lot of visitors. With a group like you, you will run them all off like you did those other 300 or so members
I haven't said anything this WHOLE time - but I think it's time rmolson gets a short 'ban' from posting to this site. I'm tired of seeing him continually nag and pester for attention - regardless of views!
Quote from: TheSeeker on April 16, 2014, 08:20:04 PM
Don't fool yourself girl, it's goin right up your poopshoot...
The quote of a true wizard of Oz hiding behind his monitor
Quote from: tsbot on April 19, 2014, 03:47:54 PM
I haven't said anything this WHOLE time - but I think it's time rmolson gets a short 'ban' from posting to this site. I'm tired of seeing him continually nag and pester for attention - regardless of views!
I agree.
He disregarded our moderator, and I even followed Olson's request to start a new thread under the guitar forum to end this ridiculousness, yet he immediately reignited the debate here. He continues to project the role of the aggressor onto us (just as he didto PL at the start of this thread), so he can rationalize playing the role of the victim. Typical anti-social defense mechanisms / behaviors and that disruption should not, IMO, be acceptable on the forum.
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So as I was scanning TGP for an Artinger for sale, I came upon this thread. It's spreading like Herpes!!
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1411249&highlight=artinger