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Title: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on March 08, 2010, 11:54:23 AM
Pics of the new 'Doc replica finally arrived this morning, to my delight.  2 years in the making and looks like I'll finally have it towards the middle of the summer, barring any setbacks.  I'm glad Pat (@ Resurrection Guitars) waited so long to find a nice top - very happy with the one he chose.  The top has been dampened to bring out the figure, and I'm wondering if I should even have him dye it the cherry red like the first one they built or if I should leave it au natural?  I do love the color on my first one, but this one is pretty stunning as is.  Got some time to decide, I suppose.  Anyways, here's what I've got so far (disregard the timestamp on the pics as they haven't been set to the correct date).

Koa top & back, cedar sides, ebony fretboard/headstock/tailpiece, maple neck:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/Doc1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/Doc2.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/Doc3.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/Doc4.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/Doc5.jpg)
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: picture_of_nectar on March 08, 2010, 01:50:37 PM
Sweet looking!

I would leave it natural if I were you.

Srry but 2 years seems like an absurd amount of time to wait. Even Paul gets his out every 6 months...
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on March 08, 2010, 02:06:11 PM
Quote from: Walker done done on March 08, 2010, 11:54:23 AMKoa top & back, cedar sides, ebony fretboard/headstock/tailpiece, maple neck

And it is a long time to wait.  But it is what it is, and in the interim I was able to keep my current guitar and play it until this one arrives, so it wasn't a bad trade off.  I love everything about my current guitar sound-wise.  Ultimately, you could say that I never should've had to have a second one built, but putting the wait time aside, Resurrection is upholding their end of the bargain and making things right by building me another one, which I am thankful for.  One of the main reasons it's taken so long is he's has a hard time finding a good piece of Koa to use as the top.  I'm glad he waited until he found this piece.

If when this one arrives this summer and is everything I want it to be, then I can say with confidence that although the wait in between was tough, it was well worth the wait and the investment.  And I didn't have to pay $10k like Paul is charging (which he totally is entitled to do obviously - I just can't afford it).
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: picture_of_nectar on March 08, 2010, 04:41:38 PM
Oh cool, so this is a replacement for the one they made you that was messed up?

That top is awesome it will look stellar when finished, I think Koa looks great without paint.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on March 09, 2010, 12:30:22 PM
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on March 08, 2010, 04:41:38 PM
Oh cool, so this is a replacement for the one they made you that was messed up?

Yes, this is a replacement. 

I think I'm leaning heavily towards leaving it as is and not staining it.  I really am starting to like the natural finish.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: jadirusso on March 09, 2010, 12:42:08 PM
Absolutely stay with the natural finish.. It's freaking beautiful.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: ColForbin on March 10, 2010, 08:22:59 AM
I would also like to vote for the natural finish, it's the cock of the walk!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on March 10, 2010, 04:50:52 PM
I vote for 10 to 12 coats of hot pink or buddy guy style polka dots. Cover that beautiful grain with lame!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: raisingfreen on March 10, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
Walker,
Is this new guitar going to be a archtop or just flat-top? I ask because it appears he has already added the detail to the f-hole bindings so I imagine adding or removing wood to make it rounded/carved is null. I imagine after some sanding and rounding out the edges it will have that sort of look. Also curious if the sides will have some sort of binding or will it just be a clean and rounded wood finish? I am guessing that in these pics the top is not actually attached yet but rather just in place for the photo. I had thought your first one was a molded or archtop style look. Are you going for a more flat appearance this time around? That would be a different approach to this style. The wood you chose is really nice by the way. What are your plans for the wiring/switching setup? Pickup choice?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on March 11, 2010, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: raisingfreen on March 10, 2010, 10:52:51 PM
Walker,
Is this new guitar going to be a archtop or just flat-top? I ask because it appears he has already added the detail to the f-hole bindings so I imagine adding or removing wood to make it rounded/carved is null. I imagine after some sanding and rounding out the edges it will have that sort of look. Also curious if the sides will have some sort of binding or will it just be a clean and rounded wood finish? I am guessing that in these pics the top is not actually attached yet but rather just in place for the photo. I had thought your first one was a molded or archtop style look. Are you going for a more flat appearance this time around? That would be a different approach to this style. The wood you chose is really nice by the way. What are your plans for the wiring/switching setup? Pickup choice?

Hey dude, sorry I missed your call last night, was at practice.  It's going to be the same as my current one (carved top, pups will be Schaller Golden 50's, series/parallel switches the same) except I'm not doing the effects loop bypass as I really have no need for it.  I talked to AO, and this as well as a unity gain buffer can all be added after the fact, should I choose to go that route.   I also am loving the wood, though I cannot take credit for choosing it, Pat (Resurrection Guitar Co.) is the one who did that, and I'm happy he waited so long to find a nice piece.  Sides will have binding, though I'm not educated enough on the process to tell you when that will take place.  Maybe AO can shed some light here....as long as its not a trade secret  ;)

Just got a nice email detailing this particular process, and yes, the binding goes on afterwards.  Thanks AO!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: raisingfreen on March 12, 2010, 12:01:09 AM
Walker,
Looks like your have the plans under control for the delivery of your new guitar. As far as the unity gain buffer ask Andrew if he can put an on off switch on yours, should you choose that route (I think he can with the right specs or a different model other than Waldo's CB1/2.) It does Jerry the sound a bit. Here is the key though: From what I recall you don't want to be playing or have your volume up and then engage the buffer with a switch as that would be bad for some reason (I cant remember). Sometimes I really wish I could turn mine off and just go passive (no Jerry esq tone). Not complaining though as it sounds killer. It's not meant to be a switch you turn on while playing like a boost. It's either on or off. They also make one with knob to adjust between 0-6db of the actual buffer gain. That may be just the right solution. I just don't see how your going to be changing a battery on a hollowbody. They last a long time but unless you have a cutout on the back I would not recommend it. Again ask Andrew what he thinks. I tend to just do what he says and keep it simple.

Also you may want to try series/split/parallell for each pickup instead of just the two (series/parallel) you mentioned. They have a small black three way for this and its very handy having the single coil sound. Series and Parallel are basically hum-bucking mode as I understand it. Parallel being the louder of the 2 as I recall. Could be wrong. I love being able to go from one to the other. That alone is a nice boost. Cant wait to see your new rig in action this summer!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on July 14, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
any updates on this?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on July 15, 2010, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: patrickstefanski on July 14, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
any updates on this?

LOL...was supposed to gt some pics late last week but nothing yet.  I'm calling him now to request they be sent.

Not sure if I mentioned it before but when he started sanding it down and carving it he found a knot right above the bottom F-hole on the left (when looking at the guitar).  Needless to say I was a little bummed, but its wood...what can you do?  Rather than have him find another piece and wait God knows how long, I had him move the tone knob over an inch to the left so it sort of covered up the knot.  Shouldn't be a big deal in the grand scheme of things.  I'll post an update/pics once I get them.

How about your AO?  Where do we stand?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on July 15, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: Walker done done on July 15, 2010, 03:27:25 PM
Quote from: patrickstefanski on July 14, 2010, 09:49:43 PM
any updates on this?

LOL...was supposed to gt some pics late last week but nothing yet.  I'm calling him now to request they be sent.

Not sure if I mentioned it before but when he started sanding it down and carving it he found a knot right above the bottom F-hole on the left (when looking at the guitar).  Needless to say I was a little bummed, but its wood...what can you do?  Rather than have him find another piece and wait God knows how long, I had him move the tone knob over an inch to the left so it sort of covered up the knot.  Shouldn't be a big deal in the grand scheme of things.  I'll post an update/pics once I get them.

How about your AO?  Where do we stand?


Sweet. I look forward to pics.

Nothing new on the AO.  Andrew's been pretty busy lately.  However, he assures me updates are on the horizon!  It's a little pathetic how much I think about it.  it's like a beacon of light moving ever closer, haha,  I'm actually a little scared of what's going to happen when I get it.  What will I have to look forward to!?! I'll probably just hop on the list again for a Venus bass.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on July 15, 2010, 04:18:17 PM
I know the feeling.  I can guarantee you this: when that package arrives, your heart will be racing so much you'll feel like you might actually pass out from the excitement.  It's a pretty incredible feeling, being that you most likely saved up for so long to get something you probably never dreamed you'd be able to get, and then to have that moment actually arrive, it's quite something.  Seeing it for the first time will be surreal, like dreaming, and then....it's go time.   ;D  

UPDATE: pics should be arriving shortly...
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on August 13, 2010, 01:37:13 PM
Updated pics.  Should be here this month or early next.  I'll be substituting out that tailpiece for the one on my current guitar.

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/doc2_07272010.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/doc1_07272010.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/doc3_07272010.jpg)
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on August 13, 2010, 01:45:58 PM
looks great man.
I can see where they moved that knob...if you hadn't said anything i would have never noticed probably.

You must be dying!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on August 13, 2010, 01:53:15 PM
what were they thinking with that flinstones tail piece! it looks like something the Equator guy would do... lucky youve got extras!

that things sexy. what kinda case you getting?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: YouEnjoyMyReba on August 13, 2010, 05:24:27 PM
can you refresh my memory? is this an actuall languedoc or a replica?

looks beautiful either way
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on August 13, 2010, 05:45:23 PM
What are you doing with the one you have now? I thought that one was beautiful (I did notice you were tuning up frequently). The new one looks sweet.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on August 16, 2010, 01:33:25 PM
YEMReba = this is a replica, couldn't justify the price for an original.

sourD = when the new one arrives, I am shipping the old one back to them.  I assume he'll resell it at a discounted price.  My current one is beautiful, but when you take a sharp eye to it you start to notice a lot of things that aren't the way they should be for a guitar of that price.  Binding work, neck joint, etc.  However, I can't say a bad word about how it plays & sounds.  For that, it is exactly what I want and I hope & assume the next one will be the same, minus the cosmetic defects.

Poster = the case will be the same one I have now.  AO could tell you the brand name as I think he's using them now.  Not sure what case you got with yours but we could have the same ones.  Resurrection is now using different cases because (so I'm told) the case company in question now either charges more or makes you order more quantity at a time.  Not sure if that's true or not but that's the answer I was given, so rather than take the new case (SKB? don't quote me on that), I'm keeping my old one as I love it.  When the first guitar arrived, I half expected to open the case and see a Tommy Gun in there.  These cases are the nicest I've ever seen.  Looks like something straight out of a an old mobster movie, lol.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 03, 2010, 03:39:38 PM
New pics just arrived.  Should be shipping soon.  I'm a teeny bit excited. 

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/100_2330.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/100_2331.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/100_2332.jpg)

Poster, as you can see, getting him to makea new tailpiece was a success.  Much better than the last.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 03, 2010, 03:50:50 PM
Quote from: Walker done done on September 03, 2010, 03:39:38 PM
New pics just arrived.  Should be shipping soon.  I'm a teeny bit excited. 

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/100_2330.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/100_2331.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/100_2332.jpg)

Poster, as you can see, getting him to makea new tailpiece was a success.  Much better than the last.

And fuck me, I gotta say I think I'm sportin' some wood over this thing.  All finished up she sure does look purdy.  I'm glad AO recommended staying with a natural finish, 'cuz he's right: Koa needs no color.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 03, 2010, 03:55:06 PM
WWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 03, 2010, 03:55:30 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 03, 2010, 05:30:54 PM
Yeah, what patrick said.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: picture_of_nectar on September 03, 2010, 07:40:35 PM
Beautiful, glad you chose to leave the Koa natural. Hope it plays to your expectations!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 04, 2010, 11:27:16 AM
LOL....Patrick, you know the feeling.  What's the status (status!) of yours?

Hey sour D - give me a ring when it's convenient...got my guy to give an attractive price on the one I'm sending back.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 04, 2010, 10:58:26 PM
just wow.
to expand on my last  post....that looks so good.  the figure of the koa just above the front pickup is so nice....so nice.  You should be so stoked.  Any word on a delivery date?

As for mine...Andrew sent word that the sides are mid-bend...as soon as i get some pics i'll post them on my blog thing.

this one looks 100000000 times better then the previous one, and i thought that one looked hot.  Congrats man!




Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 05, 2010, 05:20:26 PM
Quote from: patrickstefanski on September 04, 2010, 10:58:26 PM
the figure of the koa just above the front pickup is so nice....so nice.

I agree, I can't wait to see it in person.  That's part of the reason it took so long for this one to get to the finish line.  He spent a long time looking for a nice piece, and as you probably know, Koa isn't the easiest wood to come by.  He passed on quite a few pieces before this one came along, and I'm really glad he did.

Quote from: patrickstefanski on September 04, 2010, 10:58:26 PM
Any word on a delivery date?

Ships Tuesday, should be here Friday.  Fingers crossed...this part always sucks.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 08, 2010, 07:10:53 AM
love the new tailpiece. wonder what you said to the guy? lol must have been a delicate conversation...

Man shes so perty hope you still take her out for shows... I dont know if I could wail my hands away on that thing without worrying about leaving a scratch!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 08, 2010, 01:17:02 PM
Quote from: posternutbag on September 08, 2010, 07:10:53 AM
love the new tailpiece. wonder what you said to the guy? lol must have been a delicate conversation...

Man shes so perty hope you still take her out for shows... I dont know if I could wail my hands away on that thing without worrying about leaving a scratch!

Meh...nice, yes, but it's not a museum artifact.  It's definitely going to be my main axe and will be at every show and practice I have. 

2 theories I have on that:

1.) you don't pay that type of money to have the thing sit around in a house or on a wall not being able to realize it's full potential.  Hell, even if I owned Tiger, Rosebud, et al I'd STILL play them out.  I'd just hire a brauny security escort to stand by at all times (assuming I could afford it!)

2.) it's a guitar...it's not meant to get wear & tear, but it's inevitable.  Scratches, dings, etc. are going to happen, it's just part of the game.  Hopefully when they occur they're either a.) not too bad, or b.) you have someone really talented (like AO) nearby that can pretty much fix anything. 

Regarding the new tailpiece, it was a delicate conversation, but I just told him I didn't like it and that I wanted a new one, and if that wasn't possible then I wanted to make sure my current one(s) would still fit.  A week later, viola!  He sent me new pics with a new tailpiece! 
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 08, 2010, 01:27:44 PM
Quote from: Walker done done on September 08, 2010, 01:17:02 PM
Hell, even if I owned Tiger, Rosebud, et al I'd STILL play them out. 

lies.  and if not lies, blasphemy.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 08, 2010, 01:51:55 PM
cool. well you know id play it! :0) but cmon dude, nobody needs to be fingering jerrys guitars man. that is sacrilegious. shame on you.

just about anybody else's guitars, thats no big deal. but jerrys guitars are his customs. nobody else should be fucking with them. 
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 08, 2010, 03:06:35 PM
I hear y'all.  I'm just saying if somehow they were left in your posession you wouldn't play them out?  Really?  If you had a band, you wouldn't bring 'em out with you?  Obviously this is a dumb conversation since it'd never happen, but WWJWYTD (what would Jerry want you to do?).....he'd say fuck it, play the damn things!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 08, 2010, 03:43:32 PM
Quote from: Walker done done on September 08, 2010, 03:06:35 PM
I hear y'all.  I'm just saying if somehow they were left in your posession you wouldn't play them out?  Really?  If you had a band, you wouldn't bring 'em out with you?  Obviously this is a dumb conversation since it'd never happen, but WWJWYTD (what would Jerry want you to do?).....he'd say fuck it, play the damn things!

haha, good point.  this thread is too awesome to get hijacked by a hypothetical question anyway.  

So it's Wednesday, did you get any confirmation on shipping?  How long until you let me borrow it?  Can you ship it out on Saturday?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 08, 2010, 04:56:35 PM
jerry would say get your own fucking guitar, his are worth too much money. :0) no man, no, i would not play out with jerrys guits. its just wrong.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on September 09, 2010, 09:39:39 AM
well, shit. I've played Wolf, Rosebud, Top Hat, Bolt and Wolf Jr.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 09, 2010, 09:40:31 AM
Quote from: aoguitars on September 09, 2010, 09:39:39 AM
well, shit. I've played Wolf, Rosebud, Top Hat, Bolt and Wolf Jr.

yeah but you werent gigging with um. not like you busted out a lame shakedown cover for a room of 50 drunks...

i think walker is saying he would play fire on the mountain at a birthday party with rosebud.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on September 09, 2010, 09:47:07 AM
I know, I was just trying to be cool  ;D

I do, however, dig how the Wolf makes appearances here and there at various Dead/Phil shows. Those guitars should be played, and in the right hands--like Jimmy Herring's--I think it's great. Tiger and those at the Rock Hall will most likely never get out like that.

As for the original post--Benny, that guitar looks pretty damn sweet dude. THAT's why you don't stain Koa. Let me know when it gets here!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 09, 2010, 10:35:54 AM
Quote from: aoguitars on September 09, 2010, 09:39:39 AM
well, shit. I've played Wolf, Rosebud, Top Hat, Bolt and Wolf Jr.

jealous
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 09, 2010, 11:34:50 AM
hey AO, could you elaborate on the high action on jerry guitars? I still dont really get that part of his tone. Does it simply let him pluck at the strings more for that banjo kinda ring, or what? Seems like it would mangle the chord hand after a 3 set night of mashing that shit down?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 09, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
Patrick - it'll be here tomorrow.  Just checked the tracking & it left Nashville early this morning.  Sorry Poster, you missed your chance!  LOL.

AO - umm...you around Saturday?  I have a ton of housework to do (priming/painting my decks) but may be able to slip out for a bit and swing up there with it.  If not, we'll shoot for next week (Wednesday maybe?)  I have that gig on Peaks Island next Saturday so I'll probably wait until after that to have you do the "official" once over on it as I do want to play it at the gig.  Fingers crossed that it doesn't need anything  ;D
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 11, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Walker done done on September 09, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
  Fingers crossed that it doesn't need anything  ;D
Did doctor AO give her a clean bill of health?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 11, 2010, 10:59:10 AM
Quote from: sour d on September 11, 2010, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Walker done done on September 09, 2010, 12:54:57 PM
  Fingers crossed that it doesn't need anything  ;D
Did doctor AO give her a clean bill of health?

For the most part.  I'm gonna bring it back next week and have him intonate it as only he can and also swap out the jack plate for a flat one (the recessed one won't fit my AO right angle super plug)
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 11, 2010, 11:31:11 AM
well that sucks. i will say though, after flying across the country thats normal, (unless youve got a graphite truss like I do :0)

Benny you need to let me overhaul your effects setup. Your about 85 percent there. But honestly, you need to just give me about 650 bucks, a croquet mallet, a weeks notice, and about 6 hours alone with your entire rig.

Ill mount everything plush so its completely economical and road worthy. Also, we need to cut down on the amount of free floating crap on your floor when your playing. You dont have a tech, so stop asking to break your shit. Lets mount them all in ata cases so you just pop out your shit, plug in three things, and go.

we should swap chips in your overdrive pedals and see which one you like more in a blind comparison, swap speakers, convert to a midi rack system.

Cmon mang, its a shame when your so close to the epic tone boner...
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 11, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
can you upload some pics?  ones that you took?
LOTS of them!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 12, 2010, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: posternutbag on September 11, 2010, 11:31:11 AM

Benny you need to let me overhaul your effects setup. Your about 85 percent there. But honestly, you need to just give me about 650 bucks, a croquet mallet, a weeks notice, and about 6 hours alone with your entire rig.
Ill mount everything plush so its completely economical and road worthy. Also, we need to cut down on the amount of free floating crap on your floor when your playing. You dont have a tech, so stop asking to break your shit. Lets mount them all in ata cases so you just pop out your shit, plug in three things, and go.
we should swap chips in your overdrive pedals and see which one you like more in a blind comparison, swap speakers, convert to a midi rack system.
Cmon mang, its a shame when your so close to the epic tone boner...
I think your rig sounds fine. The 2 times I've heard it. I don't think the signal your guitar is putting out cares if your pedal is on the floor or in an ATA case. The pedals you're playing through are all rugged enough to sit on the floor if they want. If you haven't ever swapped opamp chips and you want to give it a try, I have a bunch of different ones and if your pedals don't already have chip sockets I can put them in for you. I don't know if that will help with the boner thing or not.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 12, 2010, 11:22:51 AM
nope.

the key to a practical effects setup is durability. if the pedals are securely velcro down, pots tightened, the jacks should never fail. If you keep laying shit carefully on the floor your still plugging them in and then unplugging both the power wart and the 1/4 inch jacks. that is a recipe for damage. whereas with a professional setup, not only is load in time cut in half, but your shit wont break, ever.

Trey has the best tech in the business. Phish has hours to load in, soundcheck, and fuck around with everything. When you going from shit hole bar to clubs etc, it doesnt work that way at all. Especially if there is more than one band on the bill or they just give you the standard 2 hour load in.

So why take any chance, spend more time setting up, potentially break shit?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 12, 2010, 03:25:30 PM
Quote from: posternutbag on September 12, 2010, 11:22:51 AM
if the pedals are securely velcro down, pots tightened, the jacks should never fail. If you keep laying shit carefully on the floor your still plugging them in and then unplugging both the power wart and the 1/4 inch jacks. that is a recipe for damage.
At the same time, if you never move your connections, they will corrode and eventually cause a bad connection. It is important to move your 1/4 cables and power jacks to ensure a good connections.

Walker, be a good Mainer and fasten all your pedals to a blue tarp with duct tape. When your gig is over, roll it all up and store it in your lobster trap for safe keeping.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 12, 2010, 04:36:09 PM
meh, Ive never seen anything like that happen. When you go from higher to lower altitudes (or vice versa), air pressure, humidity may cause some corrosion. But coming from a dude who just did a run of texas/new orleans/mobile al, i can honestly say the biggest concern was sweating over my board. Hell in Austin it was 108 degrees at night... So fucking hot. I musta drank 3 gallons of water and pissed once. New Orleans it was the same deal except as humid as a hot bath... But seriously dude, I would not recommend just setting your effects plush on the ground. There is usually slimy beer, sweat, cum, blood, piss, snot, etc. all over a decent stage floor. I would argue your more likely to incur corrosion/moisture that way. On a pedal train, its up off the ground, so even if somebody kicks over a bottle of water its not going touch those power connections. my whole deal is basically that the gear should work for you, it doesnt deserve that much effort/attention, as you gotta be focusing on just playing music. when walker is plugging things in, running lines, fucking around with that shit, he could be warming up the guit, snapping pics, eating a sandwich.

but even in the giant pro audio racks ive used to run sound at big shows, Ive still never had issues with corroding patch cables on secure equipment? and were down in the swamp ass of the Mississippi? Ive seen lots of shorts from power surges, shorts of all kinds on boards from moisture, age, or just being banged around. Some of that shit was 30 years old. I guess they arent getting rained on, or whatever, but same kinda idea.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 12, 2010, 09:14:21 PM
Quote from: posternutbag on September 12, 2010, 04:36:09 PM
meh, Ive never seen anything like that happen. When you go from higher to lower altitudes (or vice versa), air pressure, humidity may cause some corrosion. But coming from a dude who just did a run of texas/new orleans/mobile al, i can honestly say the biggest concern was sweating over my board. Hell in Austin it was 108 degrees at night... So fucking hot. I musta drank 3 gallons of water and pissed once. New Orleans it was the same deal except as humid as a hot bath... But seriously dude, I would not recommend just setting your effects plush on the ground. There is usually slimy beer, sweat, cum, blood, piss, snot, etc. all over a decent stage floor. I would argue your more likely to incur corrosion/moisture that way. On a pedal train, its up off the ground, so even if somebody kicks over a bottle of water its not going touch those power connections. my whole deal is basically that the gear should work for you, it doesnt deserve that much effort/attention, as you gotta be focusing on just playing music. when walker is plugging things in, running lines, fucking around with that shit, he could be warming up the guit, snapping pics, eating a sandwich.

but even in the giant pro audio racks ive used to run sound at big shows, Ive still never had issues with corroding patch cables on secure equipment? and were down in the swamp ass of the Mississippi? Ive seen lots of shorts from power surges, shorts of all kinds on boards from moisture, age, or just being banged around. Some of that shit was 30 years old. I guess they arent getting rained on, or whatever, but same kinda idea.
Think oxidation. Any metal to metal contact, especially when current runs through it, will oxidize. Especially if one of those metals is gold and it makes contact with any other metal. That's why they invented DeOxit. I wasn't talking about liquids.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 12, 2010, 09:41:14 PM
 deoxit, and pot cleaner have always been frowned on by my techs?

hmmm maybe Iam moving shit around just often enough? weird. your making my brain feel like jelly. jelly brains.

maybe i should unplug every single connection at every show. (lol) Ill start showing up 6 hours early :0)

seriously though, sour, if i told you to simply plug my rack back in, you would pull your fucking hair out.

i really need to number each cable as they are custom cut for each pedal, and only in one particular order. I swear you put one in the wrong spot, and you

gotta start all over again. if you want to experiment with different pedals, the order, or whatever, it turns into a full day quest.

one major mystery I have still yet to solve, is how in the fuck do you keep a wall wart in the rack conditioner when moving it around? ive tried velcro, gaffer

tape (a lot), and yet, this one particularly heavy wart (for the super vibe) flings all over the fucking place inside there. the others inside dont move, its just too

heavy to sit in the outlet. never had an issue when playing, just loadin/loadout... whats really insane, is I have an original yoda action figure mounted to the

front of my upper shelf, and its never been touched. one time i opened it up that wart had unplugged half my shit, but not touched the wise master yoda.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Happyorange27 on September 13, 2010, 06:43:44 AM
It's probably best to NOT constantly plug and unplug.  My therory is because every time you do, you are scraping the metal contacts and eventually wearing down the chrome, zinc, or whatever the surface treatement of your metal, eventually exposing the rustable under layer.  I'm sure some cables and jacks are built stronger than others and with different surface thicknesses.  So just don't get all OCD and unplug your rig as a daily ritual.  I've had my stuff plugged in years at a time and I haven't come across corrosion.  The only weird thing related to the subject was that I unknowingly kept C sized batteries in my Line 6 delay unit for 10 years and when I opened them up they were nasty, corroded, bonded, and literally empty shells; all the acid had leaked slowly over all that time.  BUT luckily that compartment didn't allow any penetration into the circuit.  So I say take the batteries out so you don't forget they are there.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on September 13, 2010, 08:50:21 AM
Quote from: posternutbag on September 09, 2010, 11:34:50 AM
hey AO, could you elaborate on the high action on jerry guitars? I still dont really get that part of his tone. Does it simply let him pluck at the strings more for that banjo kinda ring, or what? Seems like it would mangle the chord hand after a 3 set night of mashing that shit down?

There's quite a few different reasons people go with the high action thing--tonally, you do get more clarity and more sustain--but with that, you do usually get into some intonation problems. But from the research I've done on Jerry and his gear and talks I've had with certain people and from my own years of GD obsession, Jerry was a very deliberate guitar player. Every single note was important and meant something to him at that moment. So, he actually wanted to set the guitar up with high action to be borderline difficult to play so that every note he played was on purpose--there was no noodling (intended, at least...I'm sure it happened once or twice over several thousand shows)--he had to work for every note he played, so everything was intentional. Once you put all of this together and really pay attention to his playing on a stellar SBD or find a good video of his fingers, you really can see how this worked for our man Jerome.

I think it's a very cool way to think about playing the guitar, for all of us burgeoning guitar addicts.

And as far as mangling the chord hand? We're talking about one of the most prolific guitar players and databases of American music of all time. He started as a fiddle player, and then was a virtuosic banjo picker before becoming the Jerry we all think of...who never stopped playing. I don't think that high action bothered him in the slightest.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 13, 2010, 09:18:46 AM
I wonder what type of action steve kimock plays with? man o man, his cripe, Ebony, is probably one of the sexiest guitars ever built. Too bad he rarely plays it anymore... 
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 13, 2010, 10:13:51 AM
Sour D - that tarp/ducktape (aka Buxton Chrome) comment was absolutely fucking hilarious....had me laughing out loud this morning in my office to the point where coworkers were wondering what the eff was going on.  +1000 to you.

But Poster, these past few comments between you two are kinda pointless.  My pedals are velcroed down on a raised pedalboard that is only ever opened when I play, and is locked shut when I'm not.  I mean I hear ya about the ATA cases & what not, and am not saying they're a bad thing, but I don't think it's something I need to go spending money on right now.  The upgrade isn't worth the expenditure by any stretch, IMO.  Sure, if I was going on tour then it might make sense, but for my purposes what I've got works plenty good.  I try to do a good job at taking care of my pedals - dusting them off when they get grit and grime on them, etc.  I do not unplug them at all, unless it's to clean them off or something.  Other than that, they stay put and never move.  I don't sweat like it sounds like you do (might want to try a fan buddy...they're great...I have one at every show), so I don't have that problem of soaking my board with my bodily fluids.  And if drunken bar patrons decide to get too close to me, I kick them away - literally.  Since my hands are usually busy playing, I'll put my foot right out there in front of me and boot 'em (if they're holding a drink and being dangerously ignorant, that is...if they're just having a good time and not about to fall over on my gear, I leave them alone, lol).  In fact I pulled this move last @ our first gig @ Buck's BBQ back in January or February...kinda funny as I remember it.  The dude had no idea why I was kicking him but I explained it to him afterwards, all was good. 

Anyways, appreciate the willingness wanting to help, as always.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 13, 2010, 10:29:21 AM
yeah the fans dont do shit when its 108 degrees at night and its an open air venue. throw in can lights, and you are going to sweat like a summer hog.

i wont chime in anymore
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 13, 2010, 01:35:28 PM
Quote from: posternutbag on September 13, 2010, 10:29:21 AM
yeah the fans dont do shit when its 108 degrees at night and its an open air venue. throw in can lights, and you are going to sweat like a summer hog.

i wont chime in anymore

Well first off, I hear ya on the heat factor.  Never played in the south so I can't comment on that but it sounds like hell.  Hell, it's hot enough playing up here some nights...down there must be downright brutal. 

Secondly, why are you not chiming in anymore?  Did I miss something? ???
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 13, 2010, 01:48:37 PM
i think we are all overlooking the important issue at hand here....

UPLOAD MORE PICS OF THE GUITAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 13, 2010, 02:45:29 PM
+1 we need more guitar porn in this thread
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on September 13, 2010, 03:33:18 PM
+1000 to SourD for the "Mainer tarp effect pedal board." I meant to mention that earlier. You should patent this, dude.

...and I was wondering about that discussion on Benny's pedal situation as well. Every time I've seen him, all is setup in a pretty solid, compact board.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 13, 2010, 03:47:32 PM
i need over head pics of bennys rig. i just saw a shot that showed some stuff lying loose on the floor. thats why i thought his stuff was loose
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 13, 2010, 04:55:07 PM
Quote from: aoguitars on September 13, 2010, 03:33:18 PM
+1000 to SourD for the "Mainer tarp effect pedal board." I meant to mention that earlier. You should patent this, dude.

Yessah!  You go'n git some-a that there blue Mainah taahp, tie it nice togethah with some-a that Buxton Chrome from the haaadwaya stowa and she'll be right good to go for ya, mmm hmm you betcha' bub.  Shit-choo can even covah your gear latah on the drive home if it's rainin' out.  Or you can use that taahp upta camp in the wintah time to covah your boat or Ski-doo.  Shit's got a million uses, ya know. :D ;D

Patrick - I'll post more pics once I can....maybe if I'm lucky I can have AO take some nice ones with his fancy camera?  :o  LOL...my camera kinda sucks, it's pretty much tied together with that blue Maine tarp and some duck tape, as they say.  :P
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on September 14, 2010, 11:10:25 AM
sure man, I'll take some pics when she's back up here in the shop.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 14, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
Walker, just talked to Pat. I think we got it figured out. I can't wait to get sloppy seconds on your old 'doc copy. It almost sounded like he wants to have it shipped back to him so he can change the mini switches and wiring scheme but I'd rather do it myself and not have to ship it back and forth. WHATEVA
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 15, 2010, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: sour d on September 14, 2010, 01:06:53 PM
Walker, just talked to Pat. I think we got it figured out. I can't wait to get sloppy seconds on your old 'doc copy. It almost sounded like he wants to have it shipped back to him so he can change the mini switches and wiring scheme but I'd rather do it myself and not have to ship it back and forth. WHATEVA

I agree D...or better yet, this gives you a perfect excuse to formulate a relationship with our buddy AO who's right down the street from you! 
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on September 16, 2010, 09:39:24 AM
Sounds good to me. And I want to take a gander at the Phiga--never seen one in person.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 29, 2010, 02:28:26 PM
Thanks to our buddy AO I've finally got some more high-res pics of the new one:

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/benny1.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/benny3.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/benny5.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/benny2.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/benny4.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/bennysgoiter.jpg)
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 29, 2010, 02:43:59 PM
id hit that
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on September 29, 2010, 04:01:04 PM
woooooahhh
you got a set of disappearing/reappearing knobs!!! wow that guitar is magical!

seriously dude, that looks amazing, you must be a very happy camper.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 29, 2010, 04:10:44 PM
well what did AO say about it Walker
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on September 30, 2010, 12:14:59 PM
Quote from: patrickstefanski on September 29, 2010, 04:01:04 PM
woooooahhh
you got a set of disappearing/reappearing knobs!!! wow that guitar is magical!

seriously dude, that looks amazing, you must be a very happy camper.

Hahahaha, I know!  I just hope those knobs don't do the disappearing act while I'm playing! LOL

So far I am very happy, though honestly haven't had a chance to really play it yet.  The bridge was put on backwards (don't ask me how that happens) so AO fixed a few of the saddles as a result, and he's replacing the jack plate which was too recessed to accomodate my AO right-angle silent plug.  As soon as I get it back and have a chance to play it for a few weeks I'll report back to y'all with feedback.

Poster, as far as what AO thinks you should probably ask him yourself as I'm sure he'll have nice things to say as well as some things he doesn't agree with, but I think that's just the nature of the business.   Either way he's been nothing short of a consumate professional with my gear, and it's quite a great feeling knowing we have someone like that around. +1000 to that.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Poster on September 30, 2010, 12:33:24 PM
bridge on backwards you say? weird. i wonder if they just got all excitable and taped the bright down right before shipping or something? did you have AO pop out the pups to check them aswell?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on September 30, 2010, 03:34:25 PM
Quote from: Walker done done on September 30, 2010, 12:14:59 PM
he's replacing the jack plate which was too recessed to accomodate my AO right-angle silent plug. 
I noticed looking at the real 'doc pictures that paul uses the same recessed jacks. Great for a straight, not so for a right angle.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: picture_of_nectar on September 30, 2010, 05:05:22 PM
yup, my Thorn has those as well.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: aoguitars on October 04, 2010, 11:19:37 AM
You've seen pics of Paul using those Elecrtosockets? Maybe on the new G4s? I've never seen a pic of any G2s with those...always the chrome plate/LP style. I personally love those Electrosockets, and use them almost exclusively on my guitars. But you're right, they don't jive with the right angles.

As for my thoughts on the Rez, I'm happy for Benny to have gotten a much much better product this time around. He put it well--there are some things I don't agree with, but that's why there are so many different builders out there...we all have different methods, aesthetics, and philosophies in building guitars. I'm not here to bash another builder, so I'll stay out of pointing out specifics. They did a better job, and Benny's happy, that's most important. And after we do a couple more things, I think he'll have the guitar that he wanted in the first place.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on February 11, 2011, 10:35:49 AM
So a friend of ours took some nice pics from our last gig @ Bubba's Sulky Lounge, and got a few of the guitar that I thought I'd post.  Who doesn't like a little guitar porn, eh?  :D :-*

Note the sweet, durable, and sexy customer guitar cable w/ silent plug from none other than AO Guitars!

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/171114_10150090805186738_157997671737_5998141_2189635_o.jpg)

(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/171777_10150089807471738_157997671737_5985815_6846280_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: patrickstefanski on February 11, 2011, 09:04:22 PM
That's a sick guitar dude.


Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: IamWILSON on February 12, 2011, 12:42:49 AM
(http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q127/shakedown_04092/bennysgoiter.jpg)
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what's up with the bump on the back of the headstock? Or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: sour d on February 12, 2011, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: IamWILSON on February 12, 2011, 12:42:49 AMwhat's up with the bump on the back of the headstock? Or are my eyes just playing tricks on me?
It's a jedi secret. Or as some people call it, a "goiter". If you have ever knocked over a gibson you would understand why it's there. My resurrection has the same thing and so does my phiga. Feels really comfy on my phiga when playing in the open position.
Title: Re: Hot diggity damn!
Post by: Walker done done on February 13, 2011, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: patrickstefanski on February 11, 2011, 09:04:22 PM
That's a sick guitar dude.

Thanks Patrick.  I'm loving 'er.  That pic makes the Koa look like velvet!