Ok, so a lot of things are the same with Trey's rig, you got your 2xTS9'S, the reemergence of the Ross Compressor, at least for Phish shows anyways, but he's got some new tricks and new toys on the go. Is there any chance of updating the rig section? I've noticed a few things, and I'm not all that astute.
#1) Perhaps the most obvious change is the guitar,....The Docelot.
#2) Trey is no longer using the custom Fender amp switch, to go between the two channels of the DR. You can tell on the videos they post on facebook (hosted on vimeo) that he is exclusively using his volume knob on his guitar to control his level and the amount of dirt he's getting. I am only assuming that amp switch was for solos, but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe he always used his volume knob.
#3) The amp situation itself. The Boogie is definitely back, has been for a while, but sometimes the DR is there too, running into the other cab.
#4) Trey is using a TC Electronics Nova Repeater Delay - which is a dandy piece of delay awesomeness.
These are just the things I noticed, there's probably a ton more....I think we could use some updates.
Good point Walker..
This brings to mind one thing that's been bugging me.. I have a TC Nova repeater delay and when I use it in my rig right before my boomerang it causes some noise that I need to find a way to eliminate. If I remove the Nova repeater the noise goes away completely.. I know a bypass loop will help when I'm not using it but how can I get rid of the noise when I want to use the thing. Any suggestions?
Quote from: jadirusso on May 31, 2011, 01:43:15 PM
Good point Walker..
Sure, no problem! ;D
Nothing better than getting credit for something I never did! LOL
But to Forbin's point, yes, we should update the rig section.
Scott....you around?
hahaha.. that's funny guess I still have some fog from the weekend in my head.. Good point Forbin..
Quote from: jadirusso on May 31, 2011, 01:43:15 PM
Good point Walker..
Shit son, I've been called a lot worse.
Quote from: jadirusso on May 31, 2011, 01:43:15 PMThis brings to mind one thing that's been bugging me.. I have a TC Nova repeater delay and when I use it in my rig right before my boomerang it causes some noise that I need to find a way to eliminate. If I remove the Nova repeater the noise goes away completely.. I know a bypass loop will help when I'm not using it but how can I get rid of the noise when I want to use the thing. Any suggestions?
Back to your issue....my TC Electronic flashback is super quiet and I'm surprised you are experiencing issues. I wonder if the Nova is just reacting badly with the Boomerang or vice versa? Some pedals just don't like each other. I would put the rang in the loop and just leave the flashback where it is if I were you. Actually while I was at it, I would put the Whammy II and the Rang in a loop (or two) and just take them out of that signal path. Something like this:
Gibson Les Paul Double Cut->Q-tron->RMC2->Fullton OCD->TS-9->TS-9 silver->Ross Compressor->Nova Repeater->True Bypass looper ->Fender '65 Deluxe Reverb RI
Loop 1: Whammy II
Loop 2: Boomerang
Or, with a single loop; Whammy II->Boomerang
That's just my not so humble opinion, but I bet you would notice a clarity difference in you tone by getting the whammy and rang out of the signal path. That and I think it would solve your Nova repeater noise issue.
Yeah I was thinking maybe it's the two digital delay type pedals being back to back like that. Maybe I have a bad Nova Repeater.. Anyone else have one without the noise??
Quote from: jadirusso on May 31, 2011, 02:44:19 PM
Yeah I was thinking maybe it's the two digital delay type pedals being back to back like that. Maybe I have a bad Nova Repeater.. Anyone else have one without the noise??
You know what dude, pull the repeater out and try it with your guitar and amp and nothing else. Guitar->Nova->amp. If the noise is there, it's definitely an issue with the Nova. If it's not, it could be those two pedals not making nice.
Quote from: ColForbin on May 31, 2011, 02:50:41 PM
You know what dude, pull the repeater out and try it with your guitar and amp and nothing else. Guitar->Nova->amp. If the noise is there, it's definitely an issue with the Nova. If it's not, it could be those two pedals not making nice.
Exactly what I am going to do.. for some reason tho I think I remember using the Nova without the Rang before and not having a noise issue.
Cool brother, make sure you report back,...I'm curious.
But yeah, back to updating Trey's rig....are there any new things that I am missing???
heh yeah sorry for hijacking the thread..
I did notice at Bethel it seems the Bruno cabinet is now gone..
your overdrive pedals are clipping the input, try using the HI input russo
^^^^poster may be right. I run my nova repeater into an Ibanez DML II (modulation delay) and then into my Rang and have never experienced any problems with the Nova Repeater (in fact I think mine is really clean and quiet). You might want to see if the the db knob on the Rang can clean some of that up. Sometimes I notice my rig having some excess noise on occasion, and I've figured out that it has to do with my Microverb being used in the effects loop, oddly enough. I'm goin to my gig early tonight to test a couple different things out before we soundcheck.
By the way, can anybody tell me what Trey is using for an amp on this current tour??? I can't see the DR or the Boogie in any of the pics I've seen. Any show goers?
Boogie behind one cab and DR behind other cab
Quote from: Brian27 on June 03, 2011, 03:37:12 PM
Boogie behind one cab and DR behind other cab
Cool, I know that's what it was fall 2010, (from the Trey's rig - Oct. 2010 thread) just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. Upon looking at that pic again, I can totally see why I can't tell from any of the photos on their facebook page, which amp it is. Thanks for the confirmation Brian.
No problem. Im a huge Rig geek and so from time to time i research things like that.
Whats the the new thing behind trey by his Leslie?
looks like maybe an 8" monitor on a pole....
can be seen here:
http://vimeo.com/24664301
My guess would be a leslie feed or a Bass feed from Mike since there isnt an Amp mic'd to the left cab. The Boogie is mic'd to the right cab.
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on June 07, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
Whats the the new thing behind trey by his Leslie?
looks like maybe an 8" monitor on a pole....
It's a Sony HD 3CCDs Video Camera. They are mounted on a pole. There was another one right next to the soundboard and maybe a few other places all mounted on poles. My guess is they are capturing some video for future use. I happened to be standing right next to one of them in Worcester in front of the board and got curious.
BTW...Anyone notice Trey's Deluxe has now been mounted in a Head Cab and is set off to the right of the Leslie? I saw this in Worcester as well. Looks like its sitting right on top of its road case. The sound behind the stage was really quite good so I figured I'd check things out. Sure enough the Deluxe Head on One side and what I think was the Boogie on the other side. Seems subtle changes being made all the time.
That makes sense now, as on FB phish posts some great shots of each show.
That's very interesting about the deluxe and the Mesa, did he switch at all? I didnt notice at night II
Quote from: raisingfreen on June 13, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on June 07, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
Whats the the new thing behind trey by his Leslie?
looks like maybe an 8" monitor on a pole....
It's a Sony HD 3CCDs Video Camera. They are mounted on a pole. There was another one right next to the soundboard and maybe a few other places all mounted on poles. My guess is they are capturing some video for future use. I happened to be standing right next to one of them in Worcester in front of the board and got curious.
BTW...Anyone notice Trey's Deluxe has now been mounted in a Head Cab and is set off to the right of the Leslie? I saw this in Worcester as well. Looks like its sitting right on top of its road case. The sound behind the stage was really quite good so I figured I'd check things out. Sure enough the Deluxe Head on One side and what I think was the Boogie on the other side. Seems subtle changes being made all the time.
Quote from: raisingfreen on June 13, 2012, 11:16:04 PM
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on June 07, 2011, 08:47:46 PM
Whats the the new thing behind trey by his Leslie?
looks like maybe an 8" monitor on a pole....
It's a Sony HD 3CCDs Video Camera. They are mounted on a pole. There was another one right next to the soundboard and maybe a few other places all mounted on poles. My guess is they are capturing some video for future use. I happened to be standing right next to one of them in Worcester in front of the board and got curious.
BTW...Anyone notice Trey's Deluxe has now been mounted in a Head Cab and is set off to the right of the Leslie? I saw this in Worcester as well. Looks like its sitting right on top of its road case. The sound behind the stage was really quite good so I figured I'd check things out. Sure enough the Deluxe Head on One side and what I think was the Boogie on the other side. Seems subtle changes being made all the time.
I snapped a pic the first night of worcester. Not sure I see the deluxe as a head. Point it out. No matter what it sounded great.
(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx358/mixervw/2012-06-07212120.jpg)
In that it looks like he is running just the Mk III on the side furthest from where the pic was taken. Maybe that bass feed amp that is tilted back is blocking the deluxe? ???
It looks like the Deluxe might be right in front of the other cab facing the back. I cant really tell though.
If going by the recent photo posted the Deluxe as a head unit is placed directly on the other side of the leslie. I was at this exact opposite angle when I saw it and zoomed in on my phone but did not take a pic. Its sitting on top of a case labeled "fender" or something close to that. In any case it does appear that the boogie or some head is clearly visible in this pic as well as the Sony Cam on a stand.
These guys have some serious money behind them apparently.
If someone has a really good camera with a zoom we could learn a bunch with behind the stage pics.