So I know there are so many different overdrive pedals to get and mods to do. In your opinion, what's the goto one to dial in your own unique sound. I know the ts9 is overused by many (I'm guilty and own a bunch of them but really do love the tone), I'm considering trying out an OCD or the King of Tone pedal, (figure I'll get on the waiting list, but is it worth it in the end)? I'm even intrigued by the PlimSoul. How do you guys like them and why? What other boutique and/or modded pedals are you guys using? I'm just thinking about trying to create an edgier more modern sound for my progressive/eclectic jam/art/improv band that is getting back together.
Here's a b- quality soundsample from a couple years ago so you can get an idea of what the music is like.
http://soundcloud.com/groovington/e-meter
I really like my Fulldrive II w/ mosfet, a lot of versatility in that unit. Stack in with one of your TS's and you should have a great OD tonal palette to choose from. They're relatively inexpensive now and you can get other tools with the funds!
I've heard the OCD's are great. Never tried one myself but I have a few friends who are great players that swear by them.
Quote from: Walker done done on July 13, 2011, 10:51:26 AM
I've heard the OCD's are great. Never tried one myself but I have a few friends who are great players that swear by them.
OCD's are based on a TS circuit, of course so is the FDII.
I stack a Timmy-OCD-Maxon OD9 silver.
The Timmy is almost allways on.
Then I switch between the OCD and OD9 depending on what I'm after. They have very different sounds. Basically the OD9 is thick with mids, more of a blues rock vibe. The OCD is scooped and sounds more trebley. Withthe bridge pup, watch out the OCD will tear your face off.
I've had mixed results with all 3 on at once. It can get muddy if my guit volume is cranked, but sends my hollowbody into feedback heaven.
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on July 13, 2011, 11:51:08 AM
I stack a Timmy-OCD-Maxon OD9 silver.
The Timmy is almost allways on.
Then I switch between the OCD and OD9 depending on what I'm after. They have very different sounds. Basically the OD9 is thick with mids, more of a blues rock vibe. The OCD is scooped and sounds more trebley. Withthe bridge pup, watch out the OCD will tear your face off.
I've had mixed results with all 3 on at once. It can get muddy if my guit volume is cranked, but sends my hollowbody into feedback heaven.
Interesting, I might have to borrow a buddy's OCD to do a little evaluation. I haven't found much about the Tim or Timmy yet. What's the difference between the 2?
Anyone here play with the King of Tone?
I have a King of Tone and completely love it! Very nice sounding pedal. Basically, I got on the list for the KOT and got myself a Signa Drive from cmatmods. The Signa Drive is amazing, my plan had been, get the Signa Drive and when the King of tone comes along, should I really dig it, sell the Signa. Well, the King of Tone came along, and it was as good or better than I thought it would be, but the Signa isn't going anywhere, it's that good. Very, very versatile. It comes standard with a three way toggle switch that allows different clipping and gain structures. So it can go from a clean boost, to a TS type overdrive, to a Marshall like crunch. It's only $135.00 too, not to mention Chad is the man in terms of coolness and customer service.
The King of Tone in it's own right is an amazing overdrive pedal, and combined with the SD, I have never been more happy with my OD setup.
Quote from: ColForbin on July 14, 2011, 07:40:00 AM
I have a King of Tone and completely love it! Very nice sounding pedal. Basically, I got on the list for the KOT and got myself a Signa Drive from cmatmods. The Signa Drive is amazing, my plan had been, get the Signa Drive and when the King of tone comes along, should I really dig it, sell the Signa. Well, the King of Tone came along, and it was as good or better than I thought it would be, but the Signa isn't going anywhere, it's that good. Very, very versatile. It comes standard with a three way toggle switch that allows different clipping and gain structures. So it can go from a clean boost, to a TS type overdrive, to a Marshall like crunch. It's only $135.00 too, not to mention Chad is the man in terms of coolness and customer service.
The King of Tone in it's own right is an amazing overdrive pedal, and combined with the SD, I have never been more happy with my OD setup.
Have you tried a FDII? I am picking up a twin and I am debating what the better OD may be, the FDII or the Double Signa Drive.
+1 to cmatmods. Chad is a buddy, very good people. However, after you try all the above mentioned pedals, you should still check out a "Klon Centaur"
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 11:53:39 AM
+1 to cmatmods. Chad is a buddy, very good people. However, after you try all the above mentioned pedals, you should still check out a "Klon Centaur"
Klones are relatively inexpensive and good, but I remember seeing a Klon on ebay for around $700 or so. I've heard the buffer's in them are great though.
the buffers in them are great? what is that supposed to mean?
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 12:15:43 PM
the buffers in them are great? what is that supposed to mean?
Ok kids I sense there is a lesson coming soon. Stay tuned....
Always remember when "keepin it real" goes wrong.
Well, the klons i work with have true bypass switches. So it isnt buffered bypass, and there isnt an FET, or line driver built into these boxes?
The beauty of a Klon is the seemingly complex breakup... Comes from a combination of things, but they have an obscene amount of output. That probably has something to do with it.
As for another pedal worth checking out, the destination overdrive 2 is pretty amazing. Also pretty cheap at under 100 bucks used. Kimock got me turned onto that pedal
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
Well, the klons i work with have true bypass switches. So it isnt buffered bypass, and there isnt an FET, or line driver built into these boxes?
Unless the Klon's you are working with have been modded, they aren't true bypass. Klons have a buffered bypass, which are very clear and transparent.
http://soundsdifferentblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gear-review-klon-centaur.html
Quote from: tomasmaclennan on July 14, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
Well, the klons i work with have true bypass switches. So it isnt buffered bypass, and there isnt an FET, or line driver built into these boxes?
Unless the Klon's you are working with have been modded, they aren't true bypass. Klons have a buffered bypass, which are very clear and transparent.
http://soundsdifferentblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gear-review-klon-centaur.html
interesting reppd, doesnt surprise me they have been modded at all. studios will tend to do shit like that to make dorks like us happy when they are being charged out the ass
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 12:50:19 PM
Quote from: tomasmaclennan on July 14, 2011, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 12:36:35 PM
Well, the klons i work with have true bypass switches. So it isnt buffered bypass, and there isnt an FET, or line driver built into these boxes?
Unless the Klon's you are working with have been modded, they aren't true bypass. Klons have a buffered bypass, which are very clear and transparent.
http://soundsdifferentblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/gear-review-klon-centaur.html
interesting reppd, doesnt surprise me they have been modded at all. studios will tend to do shit like that to make dorks like us happy when they are being charged out the ass
All True Bypass isn't necessarily the best route to go with a long chain I don't think, i'd imagine Mr Finnegan (Klon builder) put in the buffer's to help boost the signal along when the Klon is off.
i like the sound of the buffers in my TS pedals. Same with Maxon. I have implemented a variety of handmade buffers in the past to shape the subtleties of my clean tone when using a variety of boxes. i didnt mod the klons, just used some owned by a local studio when tracking, but now I am curious to find an original one. They were ferocious, articulate, loud as fuck, and reminded me of the combination of a silver plus a ross, all by itself. That is to say it made my amp respond in a similar way.
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 01:01:09 PM
i like the sound of the buffers in my TS pedals. Same with Maxon. I have implemented a variety of handmade buffers in the past to shape the subtleties of my clean tone when using a variety of boxes. i didnt mod the klons, just used some owned by a local studio when tracking, but now I am curious to find an original one. They were ferocious, articulate, loud as fuck, and reminded me of the combination of a silver plus a ross, all by itself. That is to say it made my amp respond in a similar way.
I've never used a Klon before, but I'd definitely like to try one for the fun of it. I am wondering what buffer(s) to get for my board. Here's my chain
Whammy II -> RMC3 - > FDII -> Ross Clone -> Pitchblack -> amp send -> nova Repeater -> Boomerang + -> amp return. I was thinking adding two buffers at the start and end of the chain in front of my amp, and putting an additional buffer before the Repeater in the EFX loop providing the buffer in that isn't up to snuff when I get it. I was looking at the T1M mini-buffers.
too many buffers. itll make you go full cartoon, also the whammy hates buffers. We had to dial that in over some time. Found the right ones and use a noise filter to clean things up nicely. It certainly wasnt something I would keep in the chain, only when using the WH. At the most, I would reccomend only using one at the beginning, and end of your effects chain. That whammy is a tone sucker, same with Nelsons rang, so I would always leave that in a loop with its own custom buffer.
Alot of these guys have huge rigs for touring, see my profile pic, whereas unless your playing amphitheaters on a set run of shows, maintaining a big rig like that requires some patience. Buffers need clean power. The iso strips may work for some places and not others. Really gotta get into those bigger metal transformers for clean power on a rig with alot of buffers. Its a bitch, and can often hurt more than help. If your in huge venues, get a good sound tech, they should be able to think on their feet for different venues/problems with
Quote from: Ole' Whiskey Calhoone on July 14, 2011, 01:21:41 PM
too many buffers. itll make you go full cartoon, also the whammy hates buffers. We had to dial that in over some time. Found the right ones and use a noise filter to clean things up nicely. It certainly wasnt something I would keep in the chain, only when using the WH. At the most, I would reccomend only using one at the beginning, and end of your effects chain. That whammy is a tone sucker, same with Nelsons rang, so I would always leave that in a loop with its own custom buffer.
Alot of these guys have huge rigs for touring, see my profile pic, whereas unless your playing amphitheaters on a set run of shows, maintaining a big rig like that requires some patience. Buffers need clean power. The iso strips may work for some places and not others. Really gotta get into those bigger metal transformers for clean power on a rig with alot of buffers. Its a bitch, and can often hurt more than help. If your in huge venues, get a good sound tech, they should be able to think on their feet for different venues/problems with
How does the Whammy hate buffering? I was under the impression that it tracked better with a strong clean signal.
Serious thread hijacking in here!
Well I'd love to try the Klon Centaur, but it sure seems like it will be way out of my pricerange. May try to get my hands on the Timmy which sounds pretty good, but probably still not much of a change from my old ts9s. I feel the same way about the OCD too, in that its similar to the tubescreamer, but for some reason I've heard them and they've never really made my ears perk up and wonder "what box is making that noise?" And the Signa Drive sure sounds like its worth a shot, especially with much shorter wait and lower price compared to the KoT.