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Title: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on April 17, 2012, 04:24:36 PM
Allegedly there's a new Whammy in the works, shares some of the II's modes and is TB w/ DC power.

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1064646
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Brian27 on April 17, 2012, 06:24:28 PM
That looks interesting. Ill have to see what becomes of it here in the next few weeks or so. Id love to be able to switch between presets like the Whammy II but with True Bypass.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Happyorange27 on April 17, 2012, 07:43:12 PM
Thanks T!
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: sour d on April 17, 2012, 09:15:48 PM
Has anybody tried the morpheus bomber yet? I'm curious about that pedal. If the whammy V sounds anything like the whammy IV, I am not one bit interested. That's why I haven't tried the whammy DT yet.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Brian27 on April 17, 2012, 09:56:33 PM
I gave it a try in our local guitar store and the Tracking is unreal. I almost bought it but i kinda like the odd tracking on the Whammy so ididnt get it.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on April 17, 2012, 10:23:17 PM
Quote from: Brian27 on April 17, 2012, 06:24:28 PM
That looks interesting. Ill have to see what becomes of it here in the next few weeks or so. Id love to be able to switch between presets like the Whammy II but with True Bypass.

This is my only gripe, but I guess a bigger knob or spindle thing you adjust with your toe solves that issue as well.

Sour- I've heard the DT is much better that the IV, and the V has the option of getting glitchy like the older units.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: the_great_lemon on April 17, 2012, 10:33:25 PM
Looks totally cool for not a terrible price!  I'll have to try it out at some point
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Walker done done on April 18, 2012, 02:41:32 PM
Quote from: sour d on April 17, 2012, 09:15:48 PM
Has anybody tried the morpheus bomber yet? I'm curious about that pedal. If the whammy V sounds anything like the whammy IV, I am not one bit interested. That's why I haven't tried the whammy DT yet.

Couldn't agree more.  And the fact that this Whammy V is designed like the IV with no real way to toggle between the different settings except bending over to turn that tiny knob makes it a bust for me.  I won't be buying it.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on April 19, 2012, 11:17:24 AM
If I can get it at a good price I'll pick it up. I can just put one of those spindle things on the top of the knob so I can move it with my foot.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on April 19, 2012, 03:25:22 PM
Spindle things like a kickdisk? I have a couple on my board usually, pretty helpful.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on April 19, 2012, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 19, 2012, 03:25:22 PM
Spindle things like a kickdisk? I have a couple on my board usually, pretty helpful.

Yes those guys!
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on April 19, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
Yep! Sam's a good guy (who builds the kickdisk), had a few extensive email convo's with him (saying he should get a couple pedal builders to ship with his product, maybe $5 option). He convinced me to try it and it is pretty easy to use - if you can do a volume pedal, you can probably manage a kickdisk IMO. I sometimes use it for delay level and modulation speed, also thought about using on a gain knob.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on April 20, 2012, 11:08:50 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on April 19, 2012, 09:38:16 PM
Yep! Sam's a good guy (who builds the kickdisk), had a few extensive email convo's with him (saying he should get a couple pedal builders to ship with his product, maybe $5 option). He convinced me to try it and it is pretty easy to use - if you can do a volume pedal, you can probably manage a kickdisk IMO. I sometimes use it for delay level and modulation speed, also thought about using on a gain knob.

I'd be interested in trying it on a delay knob to make a TT espue option on my Flashback.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on May 16, 2012, 09:29:33 PM
Whammy V has an anticipated shipping date of 6/15 for Musician's Friend. Hopefully the GC near me will have some to try out.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: MomaDan on May 16, 2012, 11:16:02 PM
Just got a gift card to sam ash. this is my likely buy with it
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on May 18, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Quote from: MomaDan on May 16, 2012, 11:16:02 PM
Just got a gift card to sam ash. this is my likely buy with it

Great choice, did you make a post on TGP?
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: MomaDan on May 18, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
yea i acknowledged your suggestion  :D
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on May 19, 2012, 12:05:04 AM
Quote from: MomaDan on May 18, 2012, 05:06:07 PM
yea i acknowledged your suggestion  :D

;D ;D ;D This whammy version looks pretty useful!
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on June 18, 2012, 10:06:03 PM
So it's been out for a few weeks, anybody try one yet?
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Happyorange27 on June 26, 2012, 07:44:45 PM
I just got out of guitar center. At first they only had the four but they pulled a five out of the back. I thought it was a decent pedal and the tracking wasn't too shabby. You can select between classic or cords and I think the latter allows for better tracking with more than one note at a time. I can't say I noticed a whole difference between the two. Mind you I was playing through the shittiest guitar and amp combination that I had available to me. So don't give me too much shit for this crappy recording through my phone and be out of tune guitar.

http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/whammy-v (http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/whammy-v)

I only find about two or three settings really useful the other ones are just kind of hokey. Don't get me wrong it definitely would be a good for Sirens and such. But I could be mistaken but it doesn't have the second down like the Second down like that Whammy II. And I've never played a whammy two so I can't tell you if this peddle was better or worse or equal.

And now you have an official report per your request!
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on June 26, 2012, 10:38:03 PM
Quote from: Happyorange27 on June 26, 2012, 07:44:45 PM
I just got out of guitar center. At first they only had the four but they pulled a five out of the back. I thought it was a decent pedal and the tracking wasn't too shabby. You can select between classic or cords and I think the latter allows for better tracking with more than one note at a time. I can't say I noticed a whole difference between the two. Mind you I was playing through the shittiest guitar and amp combination that I had available to me. So don't give me too much shit for this crappy recording through my phone and be out of tune guitar.

http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/whammy-v (http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/whammy-v)

I only find about two or three settings really useful the other ones are just kind of hokey. Don't get me wrong it definitely would be a good for Sirens and such. But I could be mistaken but it doesn't have the second down like the Second down like that Whammy II. And I've never played a whammy two so I can't tell you if this peddle was better or worse or equal.

And now you have an official report per your request!

Thanks Happy! I'm a bit confused about the 2nd down function as I haven't played a V but owned the II for awhile. Trey used the 2nd down function all the time during summer 2009 on his II. How I got the sound and how I think he would have, is to have the 2nd down engaged, pluck the note, and then move the treadle to the heel down where the note would be normal or at least that's what it sounds like to my ears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFRNot1USgc&feature=watch_response
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Poster on June 26, 2012, 11:25:05 PM
oh you guys  ::) the wham 2 was made by DOD and the chipset is long gone. youll never get an accurate emulation of that pedal. the new whammy sucks a ugly cock. I played with one at pro guitar shop with a nice rig, and I hated everything about it. how they can go some far from the 2 is pretty wild to me. 
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: sour d on June 27, 2012, 02:12:42 AM
Quote from: Poster on June 26, 2012, 11:25:05 PM
oh you guys  ::) the wham 2 was made by DOD and the chipset is long gone. youll never get an accurate emulation of that pedal. the new whammy sucks a ugly cock. I played with one at pro guitar shop with a nice rig, and I hated everything about it. how they can go some far from the 2 is pretty wild to me. 
I agree. The chips were made by IVL. A canadian company. They were used in the whammy1 and 2 and some of the early rack harmonizers like the IPS-33B. As far as I've seen with my own eyes, there were several revs of the whammy1 ( I've seen up to rev F if I remember correctly) and they all sound great and they all had the IVL processor. Same with the whammy2. The whammy4, whammy dt and the whammy5 all sound inferior to me. Thin and nasally. I would use an XP100 if I had to. They sound alright and they have a shit load of settings including a tuner.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Brian27 on June 27, 2012, 06:48:22 AM
The XP100 makes a great alternative to the Whammy. I had one at one time and loved it, but having to remember the presets was difficult at times. I would have to write them down and keep them on the floor like a set list which got old so i dont have it anymore
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: webephishin on December 24, 2012, 08:10:09 PM
I just won a buttload of cash from fantasy football so I'm thinkin bout investing in a whammy IV....I have searched long and hard for a decent demo on youtube but they all make the whammy IV sound like ass.  All those harmony mods sound terrible to me...all i'm looking for is that slight pitch-bending sound that trey uses.  Does anyone know how to reach that sound (ie what setting) on the IV or have a youtube demo that depicts that effect?  Listening to all these demos are giving me an upset stomach lol.  Better yet, anyone recommend a different company besides digitech that makes a whammy?
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on December 24, 2012, 08:32:48 PM
Quote from: webephishin on December 24, 2012, 08:10:09 PM
I just won a buttload of cash from fantasy football so I'm thinkin bout investing in a whammy IV....I have searched long and hard for a decent demo on youtube but they all make the whammy IV sound like ass.  All those harmony mods sound terrible to me...all i'm looking for is that slight pitch-bending sound that trey uses.  Does anyone know how to reach that sound (ie what setting) on the IV or have a youtube demo that depicts that effect?  Listening to all these demos are giving me an upset stomach lol.  Better yet, anyone recommend a different company besides digitech that makes a whammy?

I'd check out the V. Better tracking, true bypass, and has similar settings to the II that the IV does not.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: sour d on December 25, 2012, 01:04:04 PM
Trey likes to use the 2nd down on the whammy2. On the 4 you would use the drop tune setting to get close if I remember correctly or use the 1 octave down and only use a portion of the treadle motion. Drop tune not detune.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: sour d on December 25, 2012, 01:07:33 PM
If you're gonna spend $200 you might as well find a whammy 2. If the 5 is anything like the 4 it won't last very long.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on December 25, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: sour d on December 25, 2012, 01:07:33 PM
If you're gonna spend $200 you might as well find a whammy 2. If the 5 is anything like the 4 it won't last very long.

Had the 4 for awhile and it is nothing like it! I agree in saying the 4's buffer was shit. II's are getting pretty rare and when I had mine it needed repairs, YMMV though.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: sour d on December 26, 2012, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on December 25, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Had the 4 for awhile and it is nothing like it! I agree in saying the 4's buffer was shit. II's are getting pretty rare and when I had mine it needed repairs, YMMV though.
Repairs are one thing. Usually a dirty switch or a bad jack or something repairable. I've had the same 2 whammy2's for years. I might have purchased them because they were "broken". With the 4's they break in ways that cannot be repaired. That's what I was trying to say.
(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx358/mixervw/2012-12-26080215.jpg)

And why doesn't digitech make a version that allows you to switch settings with your foot and have the 2 presets like the whammy2? I know you can buy those little wheel thingys to replace the knob but it's not the same. If you are using a whammy 4 Molten Midi has some add on midi controller stuff to help with that bending over problem.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: fulltone1989 on December 27, 2012, 12:20:59 AM
My II's LED was broken (effect wasn't responding to treadle movement.) I am toying with the idea of getting a MIDI mouse for my V.

Quote from: sour d on December 26, 2012, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on December 25, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Had the 4 for awhile and it is nothing like it! I agree in saying the 4's buffer was shit. II's are getting pretty rare and when I had mine it needed repairs, YMMV though.
Repairs are one thing. Usually a dirty switch or a bad jack or something repairable. I've had the same 2 whammy2's for years. I might have purchased them because they were "broken". With the 4's they break in ways that cannot be repaired. That's what I was trying to say.
(http://i771.photobucket.com/albums/xx358/mixervw/2012-12-26080215.jpg)

And why doesn't digitech make a version that allows you to switch settings with your foot and have the 2 presets like the whammy2? I know you can buy those little wheel thingys to replace the knob but it's not the same. If you are using a whammy 4 Molten Midi has some add on midi controller stuff to help with that bending over problem.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Stecks on December 27, 2012, 10:25:05 AM
Quote from: sour d on December 26, 2012, 08:24:13 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on December 25, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Had the 4 for awhile and it is nothing like it! I agree in saying the 4's buffer was shit. II's are getting pretty rare and when I had mine it needed repairs, YMMV though.
Repairs are one thing. Usually a dirty switch or a bad jack or something repairable. I've had the same 2 whammy2's for years. I might have purchased them because they were "broken". With the 4's they break in ways that cannot be repaired. That's what I was trying to say.

And why doesn't digitech make a version that allows you to switch settings with your foot and have the 2 presets like the whammy2? I know you can buy those little wheel thingys to replace the knob but it's not the same. If you are using a whammy 4 Molten Midi has some add on midi controller stuff to help with that bending over problem.

I wonder if this can be done with the RP1000 or RP500?
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Happyorange27 on December 27, 2012, 11:04:26 AM
If the RP Units are anything like that GNX4 unit then you will also have other tone coloring going on. I doubt you can isolate the unit to only utilize as Whammy.
Title: Re: Whammy V?!
Post by: Stecks on December 27, 2012, 11:33:17 AM
Right... Its probably overkill, anyway.  That's the thing I didn't like about the DigWham pedals, I hate turning knobs.  Another reason why I keep my rig as simple as possible.