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Title: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 11, 2012, 10:17:18 PM
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Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 03:40:16 PM
3 inch thick hunk of hollow koa ^ bumpty bump bump
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 04:32:21 PM
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Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 04:35:43 PM
she weighs in about 36-37 pounds. out of all the guitars I had made, shes the only one I kept, giving away the other protos to some of my session player pals in NOLA / Memphis. Yes for free, sans shipping, as I thought I was running this luthiers business, but he quit making stuff, starting just growing weed instead. Norcal lifestyle not conducive to a startup biz

Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 12, 2012, 04:40:47 PM
Lol, not conductive, and not an easy job either necessarily.

That is ridiculously heavy, I wouldn't be able to stand and play that for more than a few songs I don't think. One of the reasons I sold my Les Paul and that was only 9lbs!

That neck joint looks legit though, that's always one of the first things I look at on a guitar.

What is the finish - stain than oil? Or is that like lacquer or nitrocellulose?
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 04:51:18 PM
it really isnt as bad as youd think, its very balanced somehow. i also workout a bunch. I used to be big on ultra light guitars, but once you play out of a tree trunk there is no going back. It sounds incredible comparative to all the other guitars Ive had. You could also smash in a big foot skull with it and continue playing with no worries
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 04:52:14 PM
needless to say that koa was not really obtained through authorized channels. its nearly impossible to get a piece that big/solid with a sick figure. neck joint was hand sanded down from a huge knob, and its like dolphin pussy now. german stainless fret wire, un stained ebony neck (also nearly impossible to obtain) combine into a sexual force of nature. and that neck wood / back plate is a blue vermont maple native to the poultney area where I used to live.

solid brass shaft pots, torres woman cap, hand made "magic knobs" with space marbles and more unstained ebony, hand wound pickups with oversized buttons for added complexity with my finger picking style. really neat.

i had a lot of those pups made for the protos, and i didnt like the other sets, these had some sort of mojo.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 12, 2012, 04:58:04 PM
Haha, I'll request a Dolphin Pussy neck joint on my next build.

I don't workout, but I'm not a very small dude either. The Les Paul was terribly balanced though (which is why I have a headless guitar as well). I am not surprised it is balanced with such a heavy body honestly - the heavier the body the less likely the headstock is to cause it to slip - my headless has a steel hartail bridge (which weighs about 3 lbs itself) that keeps the body perfectly in place.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 05:02:37 PM
its really because there is sand in the epoxy around the graphite reinforcements. kinda like a japanese sushi knife handle. my idea. just wait in a week some queenie will be on ebay selling sandy necks. lol and i say go for it, that was incredibly difficult to workout. apparently you only get a minute to mix the shit in before things harden, its insane. but, the result is a very balanced, nearly indestructible neck, that generally only fluctuates between two spots on the truss. making maintenance a breeze.

its the culmination of many years of research and I love her. And not just because I wanted to love it, because I bred a whole family of guitars, and picked the sexiest of the litter. Ill ask Shane and Freeman if they can up pics of the others ones. Very very similar on the outside, but it whats inside that counts! (go fuck a nice fat girl)
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 12, 2012, 05:21:38 PM
Lol, nice, never thought about sand/epoxy. The headless I have has a graphite neck and I know the luthier who built the body does some sort of graphite reinforcement inside his wooden necks on either side of the truss rod. I think it is like graphite tubing or something, not sure. Graphite is durable as hell for something like that unless it gets too hot, or at least for the compound in my neck, I know I can't leave it in a hot car trunk (if not for the wood and metal anyway).
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 05:27:44 PM
yeah leaving anything made out of wood in a car trunk is a sure fire way to fuck shit up. but really, righty tighty lefty lucy, learn your baby, shell play for you if you stroke her right, from the mountains to the seashore.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 12, 2012, 05:35:25 PM
Thats true, I mean, an MIM Strat can sound great, but won't touch my Artinger, the way she touches me back ;)

Never named an instrument, but I was thinking Althea might be alright for her - just gotta settle back, easy Jim, there are things you can replace, others you cannot, I told Althea I am roving son, was born to be a bachelor, Althea told me, Ok, thats fine, now I'm trying to catch her.

And maybe Tela for the Mesa, born in a Vulgar castle of metal heads, shes the jewel of Wilson's foul domain. lol.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 06:44:54 PM
you know what I really want to get into these days, is retrofitting Epiphone es175 copies with the new bendetto ebony tail pieces / bridges. Ive adjusted the poles in those epi pups and they can sound pretty fucking amazing. Iam thinking with new pots, cap, tail, tuners, I could create something seriously funky

and you should call that thing Shiba.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 12, 2012, 06:54:58 PM
I've heard good things about those bridges/tailpieces, never had the pleasure of trying one, but I love the one Matt has on my guitar. Its those little things that people overlook in a guitar - the bridge is the gait between the vibrations of the string and the body, a good connection makes a huge differences in getting that resonance going through the whole thing. IMO, that and a neck joint can make or break a guitar, sonically.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 12, 2012, 07:09:17 PM
well few know how to ground them properly. I know David at equator couldnt. And not just on mine, I encountered a mini a year or so ago that hummed like a toothless whore.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: sour d on June 15, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
" When dry, koa ranges in weight from 2.7 pounds per board foot to 3.5 pounds per board foot. "
Over ten board foot in that guitar. Wow! Thinking about having AO make me a 137 pound strat style guitar from vermont granite. Mortar neck joint. 80 ounce magnets in the pickups. High tension power lines for strings. Should be EPIC!
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 15, 2012, 11:01:59 AM
Don't forget to put casters on it.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: sour d on June 15, 2012, 12:31:34 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on June 15, 2012, 11:01:59 AM
Don't forget to put casters on it.
Oh no way. I've been working out.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 15, 2012, 03:27:03 PM
wanna grab my Mesa while your at it? Just 70 more lbs...

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Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 15, 2012, 03:57:05 PM
in all honesty I just know what the shipping weight was, so with case, packaging, box etc, it probably isnt nearly as heavy as I initially said it was. You can definitely do bicep curls with the thing though. Has to be at least 25 pounds.  Might put one of those artinger pressed copper boxes to shield the electronics just for the hell of it, but I havent had any issues yet. Wish I could figure out why this one is more quiet than all of those other hollowbodies I went through? Maybe next time do the super thick back and sides but use regular width top? Could also be something to do with the pups. But still not sick of it yet. Hmm the internal monologue and debate rages on
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 15, 2012, 04:02:22 PM
Quote from: Poster on June 15, 2012, 03:57:05 PM
in all honesty I just know what the shipping weight was, so with case, packaging, box etc, it probably isnt nearly as heavy as I initially said it was. You can definitely do bicep curls with the thing though. Has to be at least 25 pounds.  Might put one of those artinger pressed copper boxes to shield the electronics just for the hell of it, but I havent had any issues yet. Wish I could figure out why this one is more quiet than all of those other hollowbodies I went through? Maybe next time do the super thick back and sides but use regular width top? Could also be something to do with the pups. But still not sick of it yet. Hmm the internal monologue and debate rages on

Hmm, I hadn't heard about that copper box... that is a cool idea - is that only for solidbody guitars? I feel like it would take away from a hollowbody.

I was having some noise issues, but they seemed to have dissipated mysteriously (which I am ok with, as long as they dont come back, then I would like to know why). I definitely get more noise when the person who lives in the basement has their tv on, which is right below my rig, probably noise/interference from their tv or stereo. Lately I have been able to run my comp with the sustain at 12 o'clock if I want without excessive noise, though I usually keep it a bit lower. I figured the noise was from my Golden 50's, maybe wiring, but my guitar tech said he doesn't think changing that stuff would make a difference.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 15, 2012, 04:03:00 PM
sure, Ill post some clips for the gang.

ill say this about what it sounds like to me, its much more jazzy, gibson archtop sounding when running clean. Those jazzy pups really keep it Elgin Park ish, but with some added sustain. Overdriven is does all the standard stuff a hollowbody does when pushed, but with a biting mix cutting chime on the bridge, the neck sounds like a hot buttered pussy.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 15, 2012, 04:06:35 PM
copper box is an old pete townsend trick, reportedly utilized by the great Steve Kimock, artinger can make them, and no they dont do anything but shield your pots from the fholes. Youd need to have him press the box with your guitar there, and he probably couldnt do it unless you have a back plate, which you probably do. why not go for it. its cool and just adds to the durability, and reliability of your guitar.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 15, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
Yea, no way to get a copper box in there.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: fulltone1989 on June 15, 2012, 08:25:58 PM
Quote from: sour d on June 15, 2012, 10:54:28 AM
" When dry, koa ranges in weight from 2.7 pounds per board foot to 3.5 pounds per board foot. "
Over ten board foot in that guitar. Wow! Thinking about having AO make me a 137 pound strat style guitar from vermont granite. Mortar neck joint. 80 ounce magnets in the pickups. High tension power lines for strings. Should be EPIC!

Oh man that things gonna sing!

Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on June 15, 2012, 08:52:43 PM
meh, honestly, if anybody else were out there experimenting Id love to hear it. Seems like just Ive spent more time and effort trying to constantly improve. I dont have millions of mommies money, nor do I have a guitar workshop, but yet the quest for epic tone continues. So yeah, happy to share, but its like "i got this huge koa guitar" - "no you didnt your full of shit" *posts pics, get flamed for having said guitar. There is no win with some of your douches/ but hey, thats ok, maybe one day youll realize how much a pain in the ass it is to fuck with this stuff, and give a guy a break. sack of dicks or not. 
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: fulltone1989 on June 15, 2012, 09:09:39 PM
Quote from: Poster on June 15, 2012, 08:52:43 PM
meh, honestly, if anybody else were out there experimenting Id love to hear it. Seems like just Ive spent more time and effort trying to constantly improve. I dont have millions of mommies money, nor do I have a guitar workshop, but yet the quest for epic tone continues. So yeah, happy to share, but its like "i got this huge koa guitar" - "no you didnt your full of shit" *posts pics, get flamed for having said guitar. There is no win with some of your douches/ but hey, thats ok, maybe one day youll realize how much a pain in the ass it is to fuck with this stuff, and give a guy a break. sack of dicks or not. 

If I remember correctly, you posted pics from the get-go. Sorry if some of us would like to hear how your guitar and amp sound together. There's no win from us because of all the bandwidth you've wasted with your belittling garbage, and from these recent threads nothings changed. My self included, people don't like getting talked to like a bunch of retards, this isn't PT.

I'm sure your signature series FUPA pickups sound wonderful, but it certainly doesn't do anything for us just reading about it. If you don't feel like sharing anymore "info" you've gathered, there's countless other fine folks on this site and others who happily would because we are grateful for it.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: sour d on July 17, 2012, 02:17:17 AM
Found this on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amazing-hand-made-carved-top-Koa-Ebony-Walnut-Hollowbody-Guitar-/200791749900?pt=Guitar&hash=item2ec01ef50c

dolphin pussy
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: MomaDan on July 17, 2012, 01:40:04 PM
"It was designed to be similar to a Paul Languedoc, but more durable, without the need for constant tune ups."

:D a 1k guitar thats BETTER than a real Languedoc. Sign me up
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Poster on July 17, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
yup I got a new guitar. very neat semi hollow showmaster with lollers. If anybody wants the hollowbody, its a beast. you can go here to check out sound clips if you want.http://bobmasseygroup.bandcamp.com/album/undertown-bandito

I actually have a decent amount of gear up on the bay now. Getting something more portable. Hate to say it, but combo is in the cards. for shame.



i also corrected those bends on maggie sour D. listening to feedback is good.

back to the hollowbody, if you wanted to, it could be converted to a ebony tailpiece float bridge. Some people swear by um, honestly, Id rather adjust the roller bridge.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: Walker done done on July 28, 2012, 09:30:38 AM
OMG. I don't even know where to start with some of these quotes.
Title: Re: Looks like a hunk of koa to me
Post by: picture_of_nectar on July 28, 2012, 12:53:35 PM
funny, my Doc has never needed a tune up...infact I rarely even need to tune the strings...