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Title: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 02:20:20 PM
Howdy y'all.  Been a minute.  Been remodeling domicile, had to take apart rig for a few weeks.

Looking for new exercises, ideas, etc.  Something to get me into a new state of mind, heh.  Explore new avenues.  Isn't that the goal?

Saw Tedeschi Trucks Band here about 10 days ago.  Derek is still my favorite guitarist. 

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone, look forward to reading your (smart assed) responses
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: fulltone1989 on September 23, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 02:20:20 PM
Howdy y'all.  Been a minute.  Been remodeling domicile, had to take apart rig for a few weeks.

Looking for new exercises, ideas, etc.  Something to get me into a new state of mind, heh.  Explore new avenues.  Isn't that the goal?

Saw Tedeschi Trucks Band here about 10 days ago.  Derek is still my favorite guitarist. 

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone, look forward to reading your (smart assed) responses

I like practicing Coltrane ascents right now.

Say you're jamming over a static Am7 chord (no chordal movement) and you can jam in Am, Dorian, or other minors all day and it will probably work but by adding Coltrane ascents or cycles it can add some flair. You need at least 23 pieces of flair. Take your A minor pentatonic scale, have a simple pattern, then repeat it in C minor, Eb, F#, then back in A. Your cycling in minor thirds and the pattern gets zanier and "outer" until it comes back to a familiar tone. A fun way to do tension and release IMHO. At first it's a bit daunting but if you practice preset patterns that you can bust out supafast at a jam it sounds pretty cool!

12oz curls are a good time also. as is the white owl bench press (best I could do on the jokes right now.)
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 06:04:08 PM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on September 23, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 02:20:20 PM
Howdy y'all.  Been a minute.  Been remodeling domicile, had to take apart rig for a few weeks.

Looking for new exercises, ideas, etc.  Something to get me into a new state of mind, heh.  Explore new avenues.  Isn't that the goal?

Saw Tedeschi Trucks Band here about 10 days ago.  Derek is still my favorite guitarist. 

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone, look forward to reading your (smart assed) responses

I like practicing Coltrane ascents right now.

Say you're jamming over a static Am7 chord (no chordal movement) and you can jam in Am, Dorian, or other minors all day and it will probably work but by adding Coltrane ascents or cycles it can add some flair. You need at least 23 pieces of flair. Take your A minor pentatonic scale, have a simple pattern, then repeat it in C minor, Eb, F#, then back in A. Your cycling in minor thirds and the pattern gets zanier and "outer" until it comes back to a familiar tone. A fun way to do tension and release IMHO. At first it's a bit daunting but if you practice preset patterns that you can bust out supafast at a jam it sounds pretty cool!

12oz curls are a good time also. as is the white owl bench press (best I could do on the jokes right now.)

Cool.  I've done similar things but I will try this right now.

Coincidentally, today is Coltrane's 87th birthday.  My favorite song, ever, by anyone, is Naima. 

Jokes are appreciated.  I give those about a D+
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: fulltone1989 on September 24, 2013, 08:03:19 AM
Quote from: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 06:04:08 PM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on September 23, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 02:20:20 PM
Howdy y'all.  Been a minute.  Been remodeling domicile, had to take apart rig for a few weeks.

Looking for new exercises, ideas, etc.  Something to get me into a new state of mind, heh.  Explore new avenues.  Isn't that the goal?

Saw Tedeschi Trucks Band here about 10 days ago.  Derek is still my favorite guitarist. 

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone, look forward to reading your (smart assed) responses

I like practicing Coltrane ascents right now.

Say you're jamming over a static Am7 chord (no chordal movement) and you can jam in Am, Dorian, or other minors all day and it will probably work but by adding Coltrane ascents or cycles it can add some flair. You need at least 23 pieces of flair. Take your A minor pentatonic scale, have a simple pattern, then repeat it in C minor, Eb, F#, then back in A. Your cycling in minor thirds and the pattern gets zanier and "outer" until it comes back to a familiar tone. A fun way to do tension and release IMHO. At first it's a bit daunting but if you practice preset patterns that you can bust out supafast at a jam it sounds pretty cool!

12oz curls are a good time also. as is the white owl bench press (best I could do on the jokes right now.)

Cool.  I've done similar things but I will try this right now.

Coincidentally, today is Coltrane's 87th birthday.  My favorite song, ever, by anyone, is Naima. 

Jokes are appreciated.  I give those about a D+

Fair enough, whats the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts?
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: Stecks on September 24, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
One costs less than one US dollar? 

I suck :-) 
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: fulltone1989 on September 24, 2013, 01:03:27 PM
Quote from: Stecks on September 24, 2013, 12:58:44 PM
One costs less than one US dollar? 

I suck :-) 

Beer nuts are about a $1.50, but Deer nuts are always under a buck...

Get it?
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: Hans Moleman on September 25, 2013, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on September 23, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 02:20:20 PM
Howdy y'all.  Been a minute.  Been remodeling domicile, had to take apart rig for a few weeks.

Looking for new exercises, ideas, etc.  Something to get me into a new state of mind, heh.  Explore new avenues.  Isn't that the goal?

Saw Tedeschi Trucks Band here about 10 days ago.  Derek is still my favorite guitarist. 

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone, look forward to reading your (smart assed) responses

I like practicing Coltrane ascents right now.

Say you're jamming over a static Am7 chord (no chordal movement) and you can jam in Am, Dorian, or other minors all day and it will probably work but by adding Coltrane ascents or cycles it can add some flair. You need at least 23 pieces of flair. Take your A minor pentatonic scale, have a simple pattern, then repeat it in C minor, Eb, F#, then back in A. Your cycling in minor thirds and the pattern gets zanier and "outer" until it comes back to a familiar tone. A fun way to do tension and release IMHO. At first it's a bit daunting but if you practice preset patterns that you can bust out supafast at a jam it sounds pretty cool!

12oz curls are a good time also. as is the white owl bench press (best I could do on the jokes right now.)

The minor third movement that you described is something I've heard Derek Trucks and Jimmy Herring discuss before. A really good technique that I also need a lot of work on. Thanks for the reminder.
Similarly, if you just stick to major triads or dominant arpeggios moving a minor 3rd up you're using the half/whole diminished scale, another move I really like for tension. So in C you're playing Eb, Gb, A triads/dominants back to C. Works really well in blues too.

I'm pretty sure that traditionally, Coltrane subs are in major thirds though, like found in Giant Steps? I could be out to lunch though.

As for exercises, techniques etc., there's really nothing better than learning jazz. If you're new to it, start with blues standards or something like So What or Impressions. Maiden Voyage is also great, I've been playing that with my band lately. I'm a terrible jazz guitarist, but it's a great way to learn new stuff.
Title: Re: Ideas, exercises.. Recent shows.. Looking for new stuff
Post by: fulltone1989 on September 25, 2013, 11:10:21 AM
Quote from: Hans Moleman on September 25, 2013, 10:44:05 AM
Quote from: fulltone1989 on September 23, 2013, 03:04:21 PM
Quote from: Stecks on September 23, 2013, 02:20:20 PM
Howdy y'all.  Been a minute.  Been remodeling domicile, had to take apart rig for a few weeks.

Looking for new exercises, ideas, etc.  Something to get me into a new state of mind, heh.  Explore new avenues.  Isn't that the goal?

Saw Tedeschi Trucks Band here about 10 days ago.  Derek is still my favorite guitarist. 

Anyway, hope all is well with everyone, look forward to reading your (smart assed) responses

I like practicing Coltrane ascents right now.

Say you're jamming over a static Am7 chord (no chordal movement) and you can jam in Am, Dorian, or other minors all day and it will probably work but by adding Coltrane ascents or cycles it can add some flair. You need at least 23 pieces of flair. Take your A minor pentatonic scale, have a simple pattern, then repeat it in C minor, Eb, F#, then back in A. Your cycling in minor thirds and the pattern gets zanier and "outer" until it comes back to a familiar tone. A fun way to do tension and release IMHO. At first it's a bit daunting but if you practice preset patterns that you can bust out supafast at a jam it sounds pretty cool!

12oz curls are a good time also. as is the white owl bench press (best I could do on the jokes right now.)

The minor third movement that you described is something I've heard Derek Trucks and Jimmy Herring discuss before. A really good technique that I also need a lot of work on. Thanks for the reminder.
Similarly, if you just stick to major triads or dominant arpeggios moving a minor 3rd up you're using the half/whole diminished scale, another move I really like for tension. So in C you're playing Eb, Gb, A triads/dominants back to C. Works really well in blues too.

I'm pretty sure that traditionally, Coltrane subs are in major thirds though, like found in Giant Steps? I could be out to lunch though.

As for exercises, techniques etc., there's really nothing better than learning jazz. If you're new to it, start with blues standards or something like So What or Impressions. Maiden Voyage is also great, I've been playing that with my band lately. I'm a terrible jazz guitarist, but it's a great way to learn new stuff.

Very interesting, and my pleasure! I too have to work on that. I'm not sure about Major 3rds, If I am doing this correctly, A-C#-F-A so that cycle works too. I guess as long as you get back to A. I don't have a guitar in front of me though right now. There's one more tonal signpost you hit with the minor third cycle.