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Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: gratephulphish123 on January 31, 2008, 08:14:01 PM
i'm listening to day one of big cypress and after that amazing blissful hood they gotta segue into this. alot of latter day shows i have have this, could be a coincidence but i dont really think so. why is this song phish's equivalent of us blues aka a song played at the end of a grand majority of shows.  i know fish and trey love zeppelin but couldnt they do black dog or something once in a while?
Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: Walker done done on January 31, 2008, 09:50:12 PM
I whole-heartedly agree here >>> GTBT was way overplayed in their catalog.  I got to the point where I was actually dissapointed to hear it at a show.  Ah well.  Honestly, I'd take it over nothing at all, but still - there are soooo many better songs they have of their own as well as covers, pretty much anything else would be great.  To me, they played it to the point of irritation, and I saw it at quite a few shows (or at least it seems that way).  Plus, we're talking about one of the best bands that play cover songs that ever existed, with respects to the Grateful Dead, of course.  But Phish was immaculate at covers.  Couldn't they just have picked something....anything else? :roll:
Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: Poster on February 01, 2008, 11:44:29 AM
agreed. GTBT is dead to me. Along with fire on the mountain, shakedown st (sometimes), no quarter, fire, stairway, black dog.... sad really when I was a kid those were my pillars lol growing up with good music was such a cool thing. 9 years old blasting fluffhead out of my tape deck 8)
Title: zep
Post by: arkjdfgkjdbf on February 01, 2008, 09:09:55 PM
I think every kid goes through a massive Zeppelin phase as sort of a right of passage into manhood.  I know I did.  I worshiped Jimmy Page as god from about 11-15.  Don't get me wrong, I still like Zeppelin but I'm getting over it as I get older.  Certain songs like The Rain Song and Hey Hey What Can I Do are tunes i never get sick of though.

GO PATS!!
Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: cactuskeeb on February 02, 2008, 07:29:24 AM
\"When the Levee Breaks\" was a point of obsession for Fish when he was learning to play the drums.  Trey spent a lot of his early practice routine studying Jimmy Page's string bending style/technique.  

I think Good TImes Bad Times, in the Phish repetoire, is always an excellent example of Trey's amazing pre-show compositional work: it's not just that he's soloing over the changes--which, to be sure, are expanded in depth from the basic blues progression on the Zep track--but that he applies a modal approach to the chords as well, which makes the more or less improvised soloing that much more interesting to listen to, IMO.
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Post by: Poster on February 02, 2008, 11:41:36 AM
Quote from: \"cactuskeeb\"\"When the Levee Breaks\" was a point of obsession for Fish when he was learning to play the drums.  Trey spent a lot of his early practice routine studying Jimmy Page's string bending style/technique.  

I think Good TImes Bad Times, in the Phish repetoire, is always an excellent example of Trey's amazing pre-show compositional work: it's not just that he's soloing over the changes--which, to be sure, are expanded in depth from the basic blues progression on the Zep track--but that he applies a modal approach to the chords as well, which makes the more or less improvised soloing that much more interesting to listen to, IMO.


I understand what your saying I really do, but when youve been to over 140 shows GTBT is like a slap in the face. Sorry to disagree, but me and my fellow tour rat musician nerds all couldnt stand it MOST of the time. Used to be that way for me with Tweezer. I cought a tweezer at Mud Island in Memphis one time that was like 60 minutes long without any real jam to it. Just the pull off exercise over and over again.. Fortunetly for me I managed to miss most of the crap Tweezers in my time on the road and still hold it dear...
Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: cactuskeeb on February 03, 2008, 01:11:24 AM
HAHA - a sixty minute Tweezer.

I would have caved my head in on the nearest stone.
Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: Walker done done on February 03, 2008, 10:45:53 AM
Ugh, I hear your pain, but it still doesn't compare wth a 30+ minute Piper, which somehow they played at many a show I went to.  It kind of became a joke to me, like they must've known I was going to be there and just wanted to see how insane and irritated they could make me.  I have really grown to hate that song, probably my least favorite Phish tune of all time.  

At first it became my standard bathroom song, making a joke of it like I had bad \"bathroom music\" to listen to on my way to, during, and from the john ala bad elevator music (FOTD was and still is my bathroom song for the Dead, btw).  But then they started stretching it out to obscene lenghts and I started thinking \"now how the hell am I gonna take a half hour piss or shit???  WTF????\" Thanks guys! :evil:
Title: Good Times Bad Times
Post by: gratephulphish123 on February 03, 2008, 11:16:13 PM
lmao, i full heartedly agree that piper is very annoying. those chords over and over and over. trey it's a great progression but, my god ten straight minutes of it is too much. the outro jam can sometimes be cool but, it it worth it if you have to listen to 15 minutes of G Aminor C F Emin F?