If your read the section about Trey's mics on his amp on this website (treys rig details) you will see that Paul talks about offsetting the mics about 4 inches and panning them hard left and right in the mix. This makes a wide audition. I just tried it. It's great actually. Try it yourself. I also listened through headphones as I played. Here is my setup.
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/b0a39d1c.jpg)
I think I just jizzed myself upon seeing that beautiful AO guitar!
Oh yeah. Here is another frontal nude shot!
(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff504/happyorange27/b8a6af26.jpg)
Yea, I have seen he uses two mics, it is an interesting idea and makes me wonder if he uses any effects after the mic as I find that just hard panning the same thing doesn't always make a wide stereo image, but maybe the slight time and tonal difference related to the mics positioning does the trick...
I have been sending my dry signal, post amp, to a stereo spread chorus (no audible modulation), then to my delay/reverb for a w/d/w setup. But that would interesting to try his style if I still had a second mic.
Do it per Paul's method. I've been doing it ever since. Sounds really nice. Check out some of my latest soundclouds or I can email you some mp3 files.
Happy'a recordings do sound really good!
Quote from: Happyorange27 on February 01, 2012, 11:15:21 AM
Do it per Paul's method. I've been doing it ever since. Sounds really nice. Check out some of my latest soundclouds or I can email you some mp3 files.
Yea - do you have a soundcloud link?
http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/poppa-wah-groove
Like the most recent 3.
Sweet - thanks! I am too lazy to get my headphones know, but I will check it out in a bit!
I need to start recording again, especially if I can find enough time to scrounge up a band, all my stuff except the Red Fang v. Blue Dog clip is the better part of a decade old.
PS - Got a chance to listen - sounds great! The most recent track sounds like Sco meets jam with some of the note choices.
I have been paying a fair amount of attention to the stereo image and panning on various studio albums over the past week, especially Junta, which has a pretty extreme thing going on in some tracks IMO. It sounds often almost like double tracking, but likely a duplicate of the original track delayed a bit and the two panned hard opposite. This is what I was thinking about when I was talking about some sort of processing after the two mics on the amp - that maybe there were to mics, but some sort of short delay between the two (might even be around 50ms or more)? I think David Bowie is the best example - I use to do this in recordings, but with a shorter delay.
Listening to some later albums I don't really hear this delay, but still a wider sound than I would expect from just a single dry track panned center. Do you know when he started using two mics? I wonder if earlier he just split the one signal, panned hard and delayed one, then later used two mics distanced differently and panned them.?.
Heady check out this new one:
http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/dirt (http://soundcloud.com/happyorange27/dirt)
Nice - great tone!
There were some interesting things going on with the panning I think, though it could be my crappy headphones. It sounded like the acoustic and lead were coming through a bit stronger on the right side, on the left I heard some really light drums and what sounded like kids playing? Was this using the two mic setup and the further one was panned left?
Thanks. The accompaniment was centered. The looping guitar which was actually my AO as well and the lead were comiming out of the same amp. One mic was further away, not sure which. Can't avoid the kids:)
Lol - I was guessing the further mic picked up the background and was panned left, which is why I heard that on the left and not right ;)
Hey happy, was that sample with or without the new comp?
With
I saw you had a TB mod on the TS9 - do you find it is harder to stomp? I am considering doing that on one or both of mine and deciding between adding a footswitch or the Jack Deville Click-Less TB mod. Mostly I want it to be easy to turn on and off when I am playing blues and kickin the TS pretty often.
It's pretty easy but takes more effort than stock. Probably easier to hit repeatidly. I think I'll skip it in the future since its not necessary (TB). No complaints though.
Yea, I notice the buffer when I am not using the TS9's and I don't only play Jam. My Fromel Shape has a good buffer and helps get back to the original tone and volume, but I prefer less circuitry when possible between my guitar and amp.
Just kinda thinking about it for the future - my next upgrades will be better patch cables, TB and possibly 12v on the first TS. This all comes after I recover financially from buying a new guitar.
Instead of modding the TSs additionally, consider getting a basic (2-3 loops) true bypass looper from loopmaster.com They're pretty cheap and I haven't heard a bad thing about them. Check 'em out!
I'm considering getting a 3 or 4 loop switcher to have my modulation and time based effects routed through, but keeping the ODs and Wah out of it to get the best of both worlds in that I wont have tons and tons of cables in use all the time and it's cheaper than getting a switcher for my whole board! 8)
edit: http://www.loop-master.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=107 something like that where you could have your two ODs TBed along with your tuner being completely out of the chain unless you need it
Yea, its a good idea, I have thought about it and talked with (what's his name from...) loopmaster. If it is cheaper and I have room on my board, I might consider it, though I prefer not to have extra stuff on my board and I would definitely want it passive as I am maxed on my power supply.
Not worried about my wet effects for now as they go to PA speakers, but if I can bring those along, that could be helpful as well.
Another future project - I really wanted to get a small unit with two send/receive loops to put my TS9's in parallel with a Fuzz (Skreddy Lunar Module). I think that would sound pretty wild. I was gonna hit up loopmaster or T1M on that one.
HappyOrange you've got some sweet ass tones coming from that rig. Very nice man. Very nice.
Quote from: ShockedAndPersuaded on February 05, 2012, 07:38:43 PM
HappyOrange you've got some sweet ass tones coming from that rig. Very nice man. Very nice.
Thanks Shocked! :)
How's that comp? I've been eyeballing a cmat deluxe comp for a while now. Had an AnalogMan comprosser and never cared for the way it rolled off the high end. Your recordings don't sound like it rolls the highs off much but I know you've done the sparkle mod on your BJr. Thoughts?
I love this comp. Very transparent but you get all of the goodness of that compression performance. I lucked out at $60 on eBay for this old 2 knob. I got Mike Shubin to buy a Cmat and he loves it. Get one. Sell if you don't like but you will like:)
I didn't notice any EQ changes.