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Title: Pedalboards
Post by: No Nice Guy on November 03, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
So right now I've got an SKB PS-45.  It's incredibly convenient with it's power supply and all that shit, but I have no place to keep my cables, and they make a bit of a mess.  I'm thinking of converting to a Pedaltrain, but are those worth it?  Is there a better option?  Or maybe a good way to organize my cables?
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: fluffhead4020 on November 03, 2013, 04:58:32 PM
If you still have the soft case that came with it, coil your cables and stick then in the mesh pockets. Another thing I do, since I have too many pedals for the board, is use a piece of cardboard to separate two compartments by putting the cardboard ontop of the pedal board in the case and putting all extra cables an pedals on top of the piece of cardboard. This would only be useful for carrying and transportation, though.

With my method, of just safely jamming everything in there, it does get kinda bulgy and heavy. But I wrapped my piece of cardboard in a layer f bubble wrap to ensure no scratches or damage.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: No Nice Guy on November 03, 2013, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: fluffhead4020 on November 03, 2013, 04:58:32 PM
If you still have the soft case that came with it, coil your cables and stick then in the mesh pockets. Another thing I do, since I have too many pedals for the board, is use a piece of cardboard to separate two compartments by putting the cardboard ontop of the pedal board in the case and putting all extra cables an pedals on top of the piece of cardboard. This would only be useful for carrying and transportation, though.

With my method, of just safely jamming everything in there, it does get kinda bulgy and heavy. But I wrapped my piece of cardboard in a layer f bubble wrap to ensure no scratches or damage.

This thing doesn't have a soft case, it came with a hard case. 
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: fulltone1989 on November 03, 2013, 10:27:11 PM
I used to have that, and truth be told I just put cables into a backpack. For pedaltrains or at least the PT-1HC that I have there's no room for cables so I just use a backpack setup for accessories. I mean there is room if you squeeze it in there.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: fluffhead4020 on November 04, 2013, 12:38:20 AM
If you're talking about carrying for transportation, then I recommend using my cardboard method that creates 2 layers inside your case. If you're talking about patch cables being messy while you are using your pedal board, then yeah, the Pedal Train is nice in that sense because you can wrap cables around the "train tracks." But just for all around transportation, it's gonna be the same regardless of pedal board. I'm pretty sure the Pedal Train does comes with a hard case with a tiny mesh pocket that you could maybe put some cables in. But, maybe you could spring for the soft case Furman case. I have 13 pedals. 3 of which are instrument cables, and I fit all of this in my soft case (I have same pedal board as you) with my cardboard method. It sounds stupid, and I made it in about five minutes, but It keeps it neat in there when I carry my excess of pedals and cables everywhere.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: No Nice Guy on November 04, 2013, 01:28:31 AM
Quote from: fluffhead4020 on November 04, 2013, 12:38:20 AM
If you're talking about carrying for transportation, then I recommend using my cardboard method that creates 2 layers inside your case. If you're talking about patch cables being messy while you are using your pedal board, then yeah, the Pedal Train is nice in that sense because you can wrap cables around the "train tracks." But just for all around transportation, it's gonna be the same regardless of pedal board. I'm pretty sure the Pedal Train does comes with a hard case with a tiny mesh pocket that you could maybe put some cables in. But, maybe you could spring for the soft case Furman case. I have 13 pedals. 3 of which are instrument cables, and I fit all of this in my soft case (I have same pedal board as you) with my cardboard method. It sounds stupid, and I made it in about five minutes, but It keeps it neat in there when I carry my excess of pedals and cables everywhere.

Yeah, I'm talking about when the cables are just laying around.  It gets obscenely messy. 

Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on November 04, 2013, 07:45:17 AM
I have my PT2 with a soft case.

The patch cables I use are a blend of Lava Mini ELC and Hosa (either vintage pancake or the regular ones with the right angle jack).
Without a pro/custom patch cable job, it is a bit messier, but I don't care about looks and I control my board from the loop switcher.

As for my other cables and Mesa Footswitch, I keep them in the front pouch of my Pedal Train soft case. The hard case and another bag would be preferable in a lot of ways - I love my old pedals and want to protect them - but the soft case is quick, easy and cheaper.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 09:08:54 AM
So is the PT2 the consensus pick? I have my board in an old suitcase that I converted to a pedal board and I think it's time to upgrade. I don't have a huge rig (wah, volume, tuner, delay, comp, TS9, Tim, and a few other pedals I don't always keep on the board), but I'd prefer to keep it to one row. That might not be possible but it's what I'd prefer.

Also is this a good price?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001G3TJXO?cache=6b0a3a57dd12999e25888300f6568f36#ref=mp_s_a_1_1&qid=1391263215&sr=8-1&precache=1


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Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 01, 2014, 09:18:55 AM
Quote from: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 09:08:54 AM
So is the PT2 the consensus pick? I have my board in an old suitcase that I converted to a pedal board and I think it's time to upgrade. I don't have a huge rig (wah, volume, tuner, delay, comp, TS9, Tim, and a few other pedals I don't always keep on the board), but I'd prefer to keep it to one row. That might not be possible but it's what I'd prefer.

Also is this a good price?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001G3TJXO?cache=6b0a3a57dd12999e25888300f6568f36#ref=mp_s_a_1_1&qid=1391263215&sr=8-1&precache=1


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I still use a PT2, but I switched to a Hard Case. Its more cumbersome, but better protection and my knobs don't get turned every time I move my rig.

Thats the normal price for a new one. You might be able to haggle the price down on eBay - I got my PT2 with a hard case for $160.

IIRC, Music Go Round has a used PT2 SC (Soft Case) for $80. I have my PT2 SC for sale too, I offered it to a few friends locally for $60 and I think one of them is buying it tomorrow.

Don't forget you'll need a power supply too! The go-to is Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2+, but there are other good ones out there too.

Here is my PT2 so you can decide if you can get all your pedals on there the way you want:
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z342/Jon_Weingarden/20140122_090738_HDR_zpsbcpis05f.jpg)
And here is a Pizza I made the other day:
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z342/Jon_Weingarden/20140128_184907_HDR_zpst4xm4kd_edit_1390958669201_zps8pubxxlk.jpg)
(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z342/Jon_Weingarden/20140128_190903_HDR_zpskhh9qwl_edit_1390958819916_zpsyqjzycqp.jpg)
mmm
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 09:27:21 AM
How much for the pizza?


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Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 09:51:21 AM
Seriously though, why do I need the Voodoo Labs? Right now I just have my effects daisy chained and then plugged directly into a surge protector.




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Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 01, 2014, 09:59:36 AM
Haha, the Pizza was delicious, but is gone now.

You can use your daisy chain, but it can cause noise and other problems. If its working for you, great! If you have issues, thats the first place I'd look. There are tons of threads on TGP and other sites that talk about power supplies if you do a google search like:
Quotesite:thegearpage.net daisy chain
Title: Pedalboards
Post by: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 10:23:13 AM
Cool thanks. There's a little bit of noise but not too bad for my purposes. I'm not playing out, just jamming with friends. I jam fairly regularly with some professional touring musicians but that's always acoustic. And I really don't think they'd be bothered by the noise even if we did plug in. With twin toddlers, that money is probably best spent elsewhere. :p


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Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 01, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
Yep, and its something you can always upgrade if you find yourself with some extra cash in your hand.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on February 01, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
... if you find yourself with some extra cash in your hand.
Like in 22 years when the twins are done with college?


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Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on February 01, 2014, 03:33:09 PM
Quote from: Jkendrick on February 01, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on February 01, 2014, 11:10:29 AM
... if you find yourself with some extra cash in your hand.
Like in 22 years when the twins are done with college?


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Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: fishbiscuit on March 23, 2014, 12:08:11 AM
Quote from: No Nice Guy on November 03, 2013, 04:45:22 PM
So right now I've got an SKB PS-45.  It's incredibly convenient with it's power supply and all that shit, but I have no place to keep my cables, and they make a bit of a mess.  I'm thinking of converting to a Pedaltrain, but are those worth it?  Is there a better option?  Or maybe a good way to organize my cables?

I'm sure many of you know but Pedal Train has a website that lets you mess around with board design: http://pedalboardplanner.com/

Great for planning or upgrades.

I have a PT-2 and it gets everything done and has a little room for expanding.  After going through many, many reviews I think Pedal Train is the way to go unless you are going to build your own custom board.  Sure it feels like I'm overpaying for a piece of light metal and a bag but I'm not going to take the time to build a custom board right now and I'm sure I saved in wasted lumber by now.
Title: Re: Pedalboards
Post by: the_great_lemon on March 24, 2014, 12:40:14 AM
I have a pt2 at home right now that I had used for approximately 2 years.  It was great and allowed me to fit all the pedals I needed on it and some extra room.  Recently, however, i felt it was a little too spread out, so I grabbed the GC exclusive PT1 at a discounted price and moved all my pedals over in the same configuration as before (I haven't majorly tweaked my setup in about a year).  I love having a smaller board!  It makes me feel like im bringing less to the gig, when im really not.  ;D

I'd say that the PT2 is a great starting point as you start to gather effects but if you find yourself with a lot of extra room on the board downsizing may be the way to go.