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Title: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: tsbot on June 24, 2015, 06:49:23 PM
Pretty cool article to read about his practice habits for GD and Phish.  He's got some gear changes - wonder what he's going to use for the GD shows. I know he had Paul put the single coil back in his early 'Doc.  He mentions speakers and effects that are new to him.  Maybe a Mu-Tron and auto wah?  Looking forward to the shows!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/trey-anastasio-on-phishs-bond-his-man-cave-and-the-deads-big-gigs-20150624
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Walker done done on June 24, 2015, 07:09:05 PM
Hopefully he went with the Emma!  A friend of mine bought a MuTron that was in really good shape and I'll be honest, it sounded like shit and was hard to dial in.  I'm sure with more time it would be easier to find a sweet spot, but I was surprised at how tough it was and uninspired by the sound.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Buffered on June 27, 2015, 10:19:00 AM
Quote from: Walker done done on June 24, 2015, 07:09:05 PM
Hopefully he went with the Emma!  A friend of mine bought a MuTron that was in really good shape and I'll be honest, it sounded like shit and was hard to dial in.  I'm sure with more time it would be easier to find a sweet spot, but I was surprised at how tough it was and uninspired by the sound.

+1 on the Emma for Jer tones. I've tried a lot of different boutique filters and the Emma and 3Leaf Wonderlove are my favorites. Proton was sterile, though.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Deadicated Phan on June 27, 2015, 05:16:00 PM
You guys see the pics on the GD50 Facebook page??? Someone post the rig pics!!! He's got almost all his Docs with him (first one refinished, maple top my favorite, and the first 2 koas) No Ocedoc, don't mind that though...
His rig changes: 3 CAE switchers in the rack instead of 1 + a new effects unit? Also his top cabinet (unmic'd) does't have V30s, you can see the larger dust caps. AND he's back on the MarkIII

Discuss....
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Down_With_Sco on June 27, 2015, 11:03:48 PM
Working on updating the document right now.... will prob take through next weekend to solidify details.


Off the bat, I've noticed:

no Black Cat Vibe anymore only the vintage Shin-Ei still sitting atop the rack next to a Tru Tron and Hughes & Kettner Rotosphere
where the Rack BCV and Super Tremolo were is now either a delay or reverb.
two different 2x12 cabinets (bottom one being miked with at least 2 mics)

Maple/Paduak #1 as main guitar
Spruce/Maple #2 now also has a single coil in the middle position..... anyone know the brand yet??!?!!?
Koa #1 and Koa #2 are there as secondaries.

No green maple or ocedoc present


Mickey has a theremin why? LOL
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Poster on June 29, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
ha nobody noticed all the buckers are reversed in position. also hes using new Tone Tubby speakers. I know because I got some of the same batch for my Hard Truckers Cabinet. No compressor. Rang has a wampler boost / buffer with it in the loop.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Down_With_Sco on June 29, 2015, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: Poster on June 29, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
ha nobody noticed all the buckers are reversed in position. also hes using new Tone Tubby speakers.

wow that's odd.. didnt notice until u mentioned it

which speaker is trey using, the Weber Silver Bells?
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Poster on June 29, 2015, 04:23:48 PM
Tone Tubby Purple Haze. Bright but smooth. I dig um.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on June 29, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
Are all the speakers Tone Tubby Purple Haze? Any pics confirming that? I see the pics on the GD50 site and all I can tell is the cone is lighter in color, like a hemp cone, and the dust cap is a moderate size (not small like a V30 and not huge like an EVM12L).

I've been using Steamboat Hemp 100 speakers, which are old Celestion G12-80's with a Tone Tubby hemp cone. They also sport the somewhat larger dust cap. They sound really nice - much more clear and articulate on the top end than a lot of hemp cones: smooths out the treble rather than just being dark. However, I find myself adjusting my GEQ just a tiny bit: adding some upper mids to get back the bite of a V30, and turning down the low mids because hemps speakers can be just a bit too fat and meaty.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Poster on June 29, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
Straight from Thom at TT and Red himself at GD50 SC.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Buffered on June 30, 2015, 08:51:09 AM
Quote from: Poster on June 29, 2015, 10:40:16 PM
Straight from Thom at TT and Red himself at GD50 SC.

If you say so!
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: No Nice Guy on June 30, 2015, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: Poster on June 29, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
No compressor.

Could swear I saw the Ross up by the TS9s
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Down_With_Sco on June 30, 2015, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: No Nice Guy on June 30, 2015, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: Poster on June 29, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
No compressor.

Could swear I saw the Ross up by the TS9s

That's the Tru tron... also a H&K Rotosphere
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: seriesnuns on July 01, 2015, 06:37:14 AM
Quote from: Poster on June 29, 2015, 03:04:03 PM
ha nobody noticed all the buckers are reversed in position. also hes using new Tone Tubby speakers. I know because I got some of the same batch for my Hard Truckers Cabinet. No compressor. Rang has a wampler boost / buffer with it in the loop.

I noticed that too. So he had all his guitars rewired.

I'm also wondering how he's doing the switching with a middle pickup.

I just listed to a few songs from SC and he is getting some good tone.

I will verify more of his tone this weekend in Chicago hopefully durring a shakedown or fire on the mountain!
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: raisingfreen on July 08, 2015, 02:33:16 PM
Just FYI, In looking at the pedal board Trey had on top of of his rack... Initially I think the consensus was he had a "Hughes & Kettner Tube Rotosphere" when in actuality it is a "Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor" if you look close or look at the actual products online in pics the Rotosphere has three foot switches and the Tube Factor has two. The one on his each has only two switches. In any case just an observation. That plus I heard no leslie style sound slow or fast within any of the shows. The Univibe seemed to be used however. Wonder why the addition of this as well as the dual TS9s per usual?
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: raisingfreen on July 08, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Also, does anyone know why Trey's guitars had all the pickups reversed in position? There must have been some logical sound reason for this. Maybe AO can weigh in on this?
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: Heady Jam Fan on July 09, 2015, 08:50:51 PM
Quote from: raisingfreen on July 08, 2015, 02:35:06 PM
Also, does anyone know why Trey's guitars had all the pickups reversed in position? There must have been some logical sound reason for this. Maybe AO can weigh in on this?

I've tried both ways. I went back to the "normal" way because it is standard. However, I think the screw slug can be slightly hotter and is usually the coil that is on (not sent to ground) in single-coil mode. So this means that reversing the pickups makes the neck and bridge coil sound a bit more similar. I've done this on guitars that sounded too warm on the neck and too bright on the bridge. IIRC, it also really changes how the guitar sounds when the pickup selector is in the middle setting & the coil-tap (single-coil mode) is on.

My guess is this was the best way for Trey to get that "middle-position" Garcia/GD tone.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: sour d on July 09, 2015, 09:10:07 PM
Quote from: raisingfreen on July 08, 2015, 02:33:16 PM
Just FYI, In looking at the pedal board Trey had on top of of his rack... Initially I think the consensus was he had a "Hughes & Kettner Tube Rotosphere" when in actuality it is a "Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor" if you look close or look at the actual products online in pics the Rotosphere has three foot switches and the Tube Factor has two. The one on his each has only two switches. In any case just an observation. That plus I heard no leslie style sound slow or fast within any of the shows. The Univibe seemed to be used however. Wonder why the addition of this as well as the dual TS9s per usual?

Brad Sarno said it was the h&k tube factor and he was using it for his cleaner dirt.
Title: Re: Trey and GD50 Gear
Post by: tsbot on July 10, 2015, 12:00:17 AM
Here is a link that has Brad talking about Trey's gear and speakers - pretty neat stuff - only 3 pages so its all worth reading (for the most part).


http://www.rukind.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=419&t=17189