this could be a stupid question.... but did trey drop his comp this summer?
I'm pretty certain that I'm hearing it, but I'll leave it to more expert ears and eyes to confirm.
I was thinking he doesn't seem to have it this tour, but can't confirm. Anyone find any concrete evidence either way?
I think it's still on the floor, but have yet to see a photo showing it present.
I checked the Facebook photos. Looks like its not there. It's not up by ts9's at least for dead shows and looks like same set up. Wouldn't be on floor.
Which makes me wonder how he changed boogie settings.
Quote from: Hoody on July 23, 2015, 02:48:27 PM
I checked the Facebook photos. Looks like its not there. It's not up by ts9's at least for dead shows and looks like same set up. Wouldn't be on floor.
Which makes me wonder how he changed boogie settings.
Trey's Phish setup is slightly differed from the GD50 shows. The Tru-Tron is now on the floor where it was ontop the rack at GD50. Trey also has the Alesis Microverb up there now since it was taken out of the rack for GD50.
And Trey went back to the two 2x12 Languedoc setup from whatever 2x12 and 1x12 he had for GD50. I only thing I still don't know if he changed speakers back from the tone tubby purple haze speakers.
Well, whether he's using the Ross or not -- and I really thought I was hearing it -- his tones this week in Bend were gorgeous. I think this is the best he's sounded since about '98, although I'll be the first to concede that this is very personal preference.
Can you recommend a song that it's clear he is using his comp and a song that he is not using it. Love to really hear the difference, it's hard for me to tell.
Yes his tones this tour are awesome, reminiscent of late 90's in my opinion.
i think that divided sky or its ice shows pretty well that hes using a comp, but i guess a song that he isnt would be ghost. but hes always had it so idk
I digress. Whether he is playing a comp or not, I will tell you this; the more you evolve as a Trey type player, the more you may find yourself using less and less of the compression ratio and can almost lift off of using the comp all together. I say almost. I've gradually bumped the comp knob down so that I am at the minimum setting, yet getting all the sustain I need because I know where to position my guitar relative to my speaker at any given moment. This can take hours of feeling out this zone but it becomes the happy bubble. Anyway I only share this because I have been floating in the sound sphere of my new custom made tube amp which elevated my entire audio pleasure.
Quote from: Happyorange27 on July 26, 2015, 07:42:02 PM
I digress. Whether he is playing a comp or not, I will tell you this; the more you evolve as a Trey type player, the more you may find yourself using less and less of the compression ratio and can almost lift off of using the comp all together. I say almost. I've gradually bumped the comp knob down so that I am at the minimum setting, yet getting all the sustain I need because I know where to position my guitar relative to my speaker at any given moment. This can take hours of feeling out this zone but it becomes the happy bubble. Anyway I only share this because I have been floating in the sound sphere of my new custom made tube amp which elevated my entire audio pleasure.
I can agree with this. I already have my compRosser at minimum sensitivity.
I dunno why but I like my Sustain at 10 o'clock and my level between 12-1 o'clock.
Seems to be the sweet spot.
Personally I just like my tone better with the Ross on. Maybe because my ear had become so accustomed to it.
BTW, looks like some be pickups in Koa #1, or maybe the ones from Ole Reliable? Dunno. But he's getting some sweet crunchy mid range-y tones outa that rig.
I am assuming that when you run the sustain low on your compressor you have the levels of your overdrive pedals cranked right?
Yeah, I keep my sustain around 9 o'clock. I tried it higher (around 12 o'clock) again recently and didn't dig that much sustain - too squashed.
I turn up the level on my TS's as high as I can without excess noise. If I'm getting a lot of noise at a certain venue, I turn the volume down just a bit and it can make a big difference. But sometimes - in places with poor power or lots of noise-inducing lights and electronics - I turn the level down to 3 o'clock.
I've never been able to figure out the ts9 with volume cranked into Ross. No matter what I get a huge volume jump. I've taken treys exact settings on the ts9 and Ross and boogie and the volume jump is pretty high. You can't play it unless you turn guitar volume way down.
Does anyone not have that experience? There is just no way to keep overall volume somewhat even with those settings. I don't mind because I like the tone with volume rolled back on guitar. To me it's the best sound with that set up. And I've turned ts9s down and think it sounds better.
Curious about others experiences
I like my compressor level, and the level of my overdrive pedals to be at unity gain with my amp volume. There is none of that jump in volume happening here at all. I stay away from single channel amps. I stay away from amps without a master volume. A 2 channel amp with master volume is the only way i go with amps. I set my dirty channel volume to the loudest i can stand when the drive is set where i want it. Then i set up my clean channels volume so that there is no jump or loss of volume at all when i change channels. The master volume of my amp is cranked.
Yup same here. Unless the Level on the Ross is set way low I will get a volume jump with the TS9 up past unity. I just set the TS9 at the unity level and call it good.
I feel like there must be another way Treys levels are kept even. Perhaps in his rack or through the PA at the soundboard.
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Well the Ross is not on the floor, maybe it's hiding under the Microverb on the rack?
Definitely not hearing the ross in his tone. Getting some hints of '02/'03 tone for sure. Love that tone. Also, really surprised he kept the Dead effects. Definitely thought the majority of them would not stay.
Really digging the super-fuzzy-layered-octave sound. Anybody got an idea of what's going on there? Heard it a few times on tour. Sounds like he could potentially have the whammy octave down as well as the boss... I don't know, I play neither of these pedals. The drive sounds really heavy though. Isn't there a new drive pedal on the board too? H&K? This may go back to the unknown channel switching on the mesa... Good sound though.
I would also like to say that the volume jump has been a problem for me as well. I always want the volume maxed on my drives because I think it sounds best, but the volume jump is inevitable. If I turn down the ross to compensate, and like most of you leave it on all the time, my clean is too low. What to do? Finally just decided to turn the freaking things down a bit. Really wish my mesa (50 cal +) had a more versatile two-channel setup (one master volume per channel, but standard volume acts as gain for both.
So how's trey do it? How's he kick on the ts9 with no volume jump? Even if you have the Ross on lower volume you get the jump if you have them max volume. And now he doesn't even have it in the rig. Yet no volume jump. Or very slight.
Also - what's in the 4th rack space down, below the ibanez delay?
Quote from: Hoody on July 28, 2015, 08:09:14 PM
Also - what's in the 4th rack space down, below the ibanez delay?
TC Electronic D-Two
Quote from: Hoody on July 27, 2015, 07:41:19 PM
I've never been able to figure out the ts9 with volume cranked into Ross. No matter what I get a huge volume jump. I've taken treys exact settings on the ts9 and Ross and boogie and the volume jump is pretty high. You can't play it unless you turn guitar volume way down.
Does anyone not have that experience? There is just no way to keep overall volume somewhat even with those settings. I don't mind because I like the tone with volume rolled back on guitar. To me it's the best sound with that set up. And I've turned ts9s down and think it sounds better.
Curious about others experiences
Hmm, I always felt it sounds better with the TS volume cranked. I don't get big volume changes, but you could crank the volume on the lower-gain TS and leave the volume at 9 o'clock on the higher gain TS. I don't get huge volume changes usually... The biggest volume change, in the context of playing in a band and cutting through, was between using my guitar volume knob to get a clean tone and turning my guitar volume back up for a dirty tone. I always felt like my clean tone fell into the background a bit and I was always adjusting the treble on my amp: bright enough for my clean was too bright for my overdriven tone. So I got a TS5 and modified it to be cleaner, louder and brighter. So I still have the TS voicing on my clean tone.