2x12 Cabinet. Which one?

Flavaham · January 12, 2011, 05:35:30 AM

I'm getting a "G212H" cab from Avatar. They put the thing together to your specs. 4, 8, 16 ohms, Mono or Stereo, your choice of celestians. (I'm getting Vintage 30's which I'm told are a big part of Trey's tone). You could go with two different speakers and run stereo, mic them separately... It'll run about $450 shipped. Here's a link to the cab I'm getting:

http://www.avatarspeakers.com/

Check it out. I've heard really good things about their stuff!
-Gabe

Happyorange27 · January 12, 2011, 12:40:11 PM

Quote from: Flavaham on January 12, 2011, 05:35:30 AM
Vintage 30's which I'm told are a big part of Trey's tone).

Are you sure Trey uses Vintage 30's. I could only find that someone reported this about 12 years ago or earlier. I couldn't find anything that support this for his recent years. Enlighten me.

Flavaham · January 12, 2011, 04:45:02 PM

Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 12, 2011, 12:40:11 PM
Quote from: Flavaham on January 12, 2011, 05:35:30 AM
Vintage 30's which I'm told are a big part of Trey's tone).

Are you sure Trey uses Vintage 30's. I could only find that someone reported this about 12 years ago or earlier. I couldn't find anything that support this for his recent years. Enlighten me.

Well, the guy who is building my preamp (Brad Sarno of Sarno Music Solutions) told me that he made a preamp for Trey that was used during their '09 Summer tour. He says that "Trey's distinctive classic tone is the Celestion vintage 30's." I'm not sure that he's saying that he uses them or that it is a good speaker for capturing that type of sound to be honest. (Although the statement implies that he uses/used them at some point) There are a few other Celestions that are "broken-in" versions of the vintage 30. He could use one of these as well. Either way, that's what I'm going with. I figured I'd throw that in since this is a Phish forum and a guy who's worked with/for Trey offered the info to me.

Anyhow, I stand by my statement that Avatar came highly recomended. For me, I'm not really trying to clone Trey's tone. I like my own sound. His tone is amazing though so it's a good reference when looking into this kind of stuff.

Happyorange27 · January 12, 2011, 06:08:11 PM

Thanks. I was considering these 30's but moving toward Cannabis Rex after talking with poster. Good reporting.

Walker done done · January 12, 2011, 06:32:04 PM

Have AO build you your own custom 2x12. Soon as I can afford it, that's where I'm going.

Flavaham · January 12, 2011, 08:23:52 PM

There seems to be some debate about open/closed back cabs. I spoke with a guy from Avatar today who basically said that closed back cabs are best used for hard rock through deth metal. He says open back is good for blues, rock, funk and jazz. His theory is that closed backs give you more bass and are essential if you are doing a lot of palm muting and drop tuning. Open backs ring a little more and have better mids/highs. He also said that the original purpose of open back was that in smaller venues the guitar amp was often set on the front of the stage in front of the guitarist and it helped the musicians be able to hear it better. Eventually it was realized that it does in fact effect tone.

Happyorange27 · January 31, 2011, 11:04:25 AM

Quote from: Happyorange27 on January 12, 2011, 06:08:11 PM
Thanks. I was considering these 30's but moving toward Cannabis Rex after talking with poster. Good reporting.

I ended up getting a used Cannabis Rex speaker on ebay yesterday. I'm stoked! It going to tame my harsh treble on my Blues Junior. And it's already broken in.

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Got the Rex and it is so much better. I don't get the piercing treble anymore. Go Hemp!