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[fulltone1989]

I don't meant to intrude but when I owned a SKB PS-45 I had a decent amount of hiss and the culprit was the power supply.

[Heady Jam Fan]

I don't meant to intrude but when I owned a SKB PS-45 I had a decent amount of hiss and the culprit was the power supply.

No intrusion - I had an SKB PS-45 and never used its power supply, but I know they copied Furman. I never heard about Furman boards having a noise issue though. If switching would make it quieter, than I would, though it hasn't been as bad lately.

[Poster]

TL. DR cactus is probably right

[Heady Jam Fan]

Sorry, not sure what TL and DR means - cactus is right about too many effects, power, volume?

I appreciate it guys - quieter is better

Should I try just the TS9 and/or just the comp plugged into the Furman and see if that helps, maybe try one or the other with a power strip?

[Poster]

oh you guys, back to ignoring my posts


you need a isolated output power strip, GOOGLE ISO BAR and move on with you lives.

[Heady Jam Fan]

oh you guys, back to ignoring my posts


you need a isolated output power strip, GOOGLE ISO BAR and move on with you lives.

Lol - wanna hear it.

Checked out the Iso Bar, it is a power strip / surge protector with isolated jacks, EMI and RFI filtering etc. So I would run each piece of gear off of that; amp and wall-warts for each pedal...

The tripp lite I have doesn't seem to isolate the jacks, but corrects voltages. The Furman says the jacks are isolated, though some people seem to think they aren't.

[Poster]

you need the isobar made for comm equipment, they make different kinds

[fulltone1989]

I think the Tripp Lite is Isolated. At least that's how I interpreted the amazon ad.

[Heady Jam Fan]

I think the Tripp Lite is Isolated. At least that's how I interpreted the amazon ad.

The Tripp Lite I have is a power line conditioner with automatic voltage regulation. I can't find anything anywhere that says the outlets are isolated.

From Poster's suggestion, the Iso Bar is a Premium Surge Protector. The ISOBAR8Ultra has 8 outlets, it seems they are isolated in pairs of 2 because it says there are 4 filter banks. This would work since I have 6 pedals (probably gonna add a tuner) and my amp. However, the outlets are stacked pretty close and I don't think I can fit 4 wall warts on there...

The other option is using more than one Iso Bar, but then I supposed I could have ground loop hum between them and I would probably need something like the Ebtech HumX.?.

[fulltone1989]

Ok, I see that one too but this is the one I have -> http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-ISOBAR6ULTRA-Premium-Protector/dp/B0000513US/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1340295182&sr=8-3&keywords=ISObar

This leads me to believe that the Tripp-Lite and ISOBAR are the same company.

If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, it says this:

"Exclusive isolated filter banks eliminate line noise interference"

I read that as "isolated outputs."

I can plug all of my stuff into the 6 spot, are you using a wall wart for each pedal ala Trey? I think thats the best way to go, and Radioshack sells a little 3 prong extender to make everything fit (how I use the courtesey AC outlet on my PP with a pedaltrain) but I don't know if that adds any noise, but personally I don't think so.

[Heady Jam Fan]

Ok, I see that one too but this is the one I have -> http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-ISOBAR6ULTRA-Premium-Protector/dp/B0000513US/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1340295182&sr=8-3&keywords=ISObar

This leads me to believe that the Tripp-Lite and ISOBAR are the same company.

If you scroll down to the bottom of the page, it says this:

"Exclusive isolated filter banks eliminate line noise interference"

I read that as "isolated outputs."

I can plug all of my stuff into the 6 spot, are you using a wall wart for each pedal ala Trey? I think thats the best way to go, and Radioshack sells a little 3 prong extender to make everything fit (how I use the courtesey AC outlet on my PP with a pedaltrain) but I don't know if that adds any noise, but personally I don't think so.

Yea, Iso Bar is a Tripp Lite product line of surge protectors. The radio shack thing is a great idea, otherwise I wouldn't be able to fit all my plugs.

I am not using wall warts currently except for my El Cap, but I will have to get 4 or so 9v ones for various pedals - not sure which ones or if it matters... There are cheap ones on ebay, but I have heard it can make a difference, though maybe not when using the Iso Bar?

Hopefully I can remove the power supply from my Furman and velcro the Iso Bar in its place or something, otherwise I will probably get a different pedalboard cuz it is ridiculous having that huge power supply and not using it. There is a PT1HC for sale locally, I could probably fit the Iso Bar under it, just not sure all my expression pedals will fit

[Happyorange27]

Careful.  The filter banks are isolated but for example there are 4 banks with the one that has 8 outlets.  2 outlets per bank.  Still a good deal.  I'm buying the 8 outlet one right now beeyotches!

[Heady Jam Fan]

Careful.  The filter banks are isolated but for example there are 4 banks with the one that has 8 outlets.  2 outlets per bank.  Still a good deal.  I'm buying the 8 outlet one right now beeyotches!

Yea, I am thinking about getting the 8 as well and that was the only other concern I had aside from fitting 8 wall-warts, whether 4 banks was sufficient (the 6 has 3 banks) so every 2 pedals would share a bank.

I wish I understood why the Furman wouldn't be as good since it says each power spot is isolated (people always post on TGP that they aren't isolated, but it says it on Furman's site). The voodoo labs pedal power says each one is isolated as well, and that is a pretty popular power supply, which makes me wonder if it is better than the Furman, if so, why? And similarly, is the Iso Bar better than the Voodoo Labs and why?

Those questions can be rhetorical (just stream of consciousness wonders) unless someone has answers they are willing to share

[fulltone1989]

Careful.  The filter banks are isolated but for example there are 4 banks with the one that has 8 outlets.  2 outlets per bank.  Still a good deal.  I'm buying the 8 outlet one right now beeyotches!

Yea, I am thinking about getting the 8 as well and that was the only other concern I had aside from fitting 8 wall-warts, whether 4 banks was sufficient (the 6 has 3 banks) so every 2 pedals would share a bank.

I wish I understood why the Furman wouldn't be as good since it says each power spot is isolated (people always post on TGP that they aren't isolated, but it says it on Furman's site). The voodoo labs pedal power says each one is isolated as well, and that is a pretty popular power supply, which makes me wonder if it is better than the Furman, if so, why? And similarly, is the Iso Bar better than the Voodoo Labs and why?

Those questions can be rhetorical (just stream of consciousness wonders) unless someone has answers they are willing to share

I think you can detatch the PSU from that board, but it might ruin the resale value. GC sells the PT1HC w/ free shipping for $120, but the local deal is better probably and you're helping a fella out.

I have a VL Pedal Power below my board now but as far as I know the ISOBAR won't fit under the bottom without adding aftermarket feet on the PT to raise the height dramatically. Totally reversable however. On the other hand, the ISOBAR would fit in the case and setup and strike would still be pretty easy. AS far as I know the VL PP is like having 8 9v, 12v, or 18v(w/ doubling cables) isolated transformers (wall warts) in one enclosure. It also has an AC jack on the backside for AC PSU's since the 8 boss tip jacks are DC. The VL PP can fit under almost any pedaltrain board.

That's very interesting about the ISOBAR banks, is there a diagram or a list of which outlets share which bank?

[Heady Jam Fan]

I was thinking the same thing about trying to fit the iso under the pt. I did get the power supply off my Furman and I think I prefer a flat board since I have 3 expression pedals, lol.

As for the iso bar's banks, I have no idea, but I just figured they paired by the two across from each other.

I am not sure if I could fit everything on a PT1 anyway. I saw a few PT2s on sale on ebay, one is in the $170's. I think I am going to stick with the Furman and try an Iso Bar in the near future. I really don't wanna deal with selling the Furman and if I do down the road, I can always put the power supply back on.