Different Than Usual Trey Tone

Jkendrick · July 06, 2014, 04:19:52 PM

Anyone?

BTW, I changed the title of this thread as it seems to better represent the conversation at this point.

webephishin · July 06, 2014, 07:28:02 PM

I heard a difference in his tone last night for a very short segment...it sounded similar to the earth vibe he used for limb by limb at Chaifetz a year or 2 ago....I was streaming the webcast last night, but it did not show his pedals, so i can't say if his board was different.

EDIT: Earth DRIVE not vibe..

tsbot · July 06, 2014, 07:54:18 PM

That's a good point - his pedals did seem like a different arraignment. On Facebook Phish they posted last nights Fuego and do a quick shot of his Whammy during the jam - the pedals seem set up a bit different - which I can believe b/c of all his new additions and arrangements.
Thoughts?

Down_With_Sco · July 21, 2014, 10:21:20 PM

So yea.... even though Trey has the Mesa in the 'on' positions, the light still appears to be off. I guess he's been EQing the Bogner much more carefully this tour.

Hoody · July 22, 2014, 08:12:55 AM

Pretty sure he is only using the Mesa, even if you can't see the light. It sounds like the Mesa and the Mesa has cables into it and the switches are all in the on position. I didn't think I saw any cables going into the bogner and didn't see a light on the bogner. He also didn't have the bogner at all on Fallon, so I'm pretty sure he's switched back to the Mesa full time, smart choice sounds a Lot better.

No Nice Guy · July 22, 2014, 12:41:11 PM

Quote from: Hoody on July 22, 2014, 08:12:55 AM
Pretty sure he is only using the Mesa, even if you can't see the light. It sounds like the Mesa and the Mesa has cables into it and the switches are all in the on position. I didn't think I saw any cables going into the bogner and didn't see a light on the bogner. He also didn't have the bogner at all on Fallon, so I'm pretty sure he's switched back to the Mesa full time, smart choice sounds a Lot better.

He's absolutely only using the Mesas. I was on the rail for Randall's n3, and the Shiva wasn't plugged in while the Mesa were.

Down_With_Sco · July 22, 2014, 12:55:59 PM

Well that's good to hear..... I hate that fucking Bogner. lol

Poster · July 25, 2014, 09:12:33 PM

Why in the wide world of sports you kids have not gotten into having cloned amps built is beyond me. You can literally build just about any of those vintage circuits for a couple hundred dollars. I recommend trying a couple of blackface mid 60's circuits, then expand into some tweed stuff, maybe even some kt66 powered fender circuits. Hell a fender band master is a mighty hammer of tone. Just because trey didnt use that amp or this amp, you can start to learn how to pull those epic tones off. Most of the time a great amp is just a slightly modified version of a classic vintage circuit anyway. So if you literally take the time to play every pickup position with each amp, youll start to hear how they relate to one another, which has huge humps in the EQ, head room, breakup etc etc etc.

Come on boys and girls. Grow a pair. Trey and Brian have all the time in the world to order whatever, and fuck with it. Then they shape that signal through the enormous PA. So yeah lets do this! Take yourself to guitar center and bring a pad of paper. Or get a trio of amps made and see which ones rocks.

Dont be a fucking pussy!

Love you guys

Buffered · July 26, 2014, 12:37:05 PM

That, is, a derailment. Clones are cool. My Fuchs is an improvement (IMHO) on the original, a clone I guess in the sense of a really close amp lineage but there's different stuff going on than a 100% Dumble ODS clone.

Poster · July 26, 2014, 01:26:31 PM

well there only clones of particular dumbles. all the ODS were different, based on who he was making it for... Ive found the best dumble esc stuff comes from the redplate OD stuff. and not a derailment at all if you consider the constant changes in gear for red, and the kinda mindless reactions in regard to why he using what, when, and how. Kimock is a great resource to learning about amp swap etc in smaller spaces

Down_With_Sco · July 31, 2014, 08:50:11 PM

Trey should leave the Languedoc cabinets on the truck on some random night and rent a couple 4x12's.... would love to see people's reactions! I know he used the Bruno cab, but a full stack would be funny.

Buffered · August 03, 2014, 05:43:05 PM

Quote from: Poster on July 26, 2014, 01:26:31 PM
well there only clones of particular dumbles. all the ODS were different, based on who he was making it for... Ive found the best dumble esc stuff comes from the redplate OD stuff. and not a derailment at all if you consider the constant changes in gear for red, and the kinda mindless reactions in regard to why he using what, when, and how. Kimock is a great resource to learning about amp swap etc in smaller spaces

Yeah it's not like each ODS' are radically different from one another though, the ODR and SSS yes. I was talking about that style of amp in generalYeah redplates sound cool but when I played a MDD it was just too buzzy but that could be other stuff going on. Would be interested to try his new ODS style model.

Down_With_Sco · August 29, 2014, 11:38:05 PM

Trey has two Boogie heads where the Bogner combo was... YAY no more Bogner!

Heady Jam Fan · August 30, 2014, 10:04:36 AM

I just blackfaced my Deluxe Reverb - sounds much better to me!

Down_With_Sco · August 30, 2014, 02:09:37 PM

Quote from: Heady Jam Fan on August 30, 2014, 10:04:36 AM
I just blackfaced my Deluxe Reverb - sounds much better to me!

Nice, but what does that have to do with Trey's rig? lol