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Title: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: fluffhead4020 on January 01, 2010, 03:27:19 AM
About halfway through the new years show Trey pulls out a Christmas green languedoc which had the same finish as the one Jackson Sneed was selling on eBay. could someone help me out on this question?

Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: fluffhead4020 on January 01, 2010, 03:38:50 AM
Oh ok, thanks
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: YouEnjoyMyReba on January 01, 2010, 03:39:16 AM
This might be in an older post but i didnt know how to search it.  What has trey changed about his guitar/rig?  Personally i prefer the mid 90s tone but i know things change and musicians evolve and yada yada...
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: fluffhead4020 on January 01, 2010, 03:47:05 AM
My favorite languedoc is the cream colored one Trey used late 80's early 90's. I never see him playin it. The last time I saw it moved was by Neil young when he played with Trey at some fund-raiser   
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: YouEnjoyMyReba on January 01, 2010, 03:49:48 AM
That was a beautiful guitar, its actually the wallpaper on my laptop.  If im not mistaken it was koa wood, correct?
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: fluffhead4020 on January 01, 2010, 04:08:06 AM
I know the bass mike plays now is koa, which is dark brown colored, but Maybe treY just got a white colored finish to it. Not Sure

Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 01, 2010, 12:29:03 PM
First, there is more then one Green Doc. At least three, because another guy has one and posted pics on PT, Sneeds, and the one Trey has been using. Paul has built 90+ Docs, so there's prolly more then 3 Green ones.  I read somwhere that the Green Doc Trey has been playing is actually Page's But that is unconfirmed. I have also heard Trey has 10 Docs...

Second, Treys original Doc was a flame Maple top with Paduak Sides, back, and neck. It actually had a single coil pick up in the mid position between the two humbuckers.

His current Doc is all Koa, it is the second of two Koa's he's played regularly on stage. You can tell them apart by the neck inlay. And the green one is Maple. The differnce in woods is the fundemental diffference in tone from fall 97, combined wih his Amp selection. I believe Clifford Ball was the end of the blonde Maple, but 97-98 you would see it on stage as his backup.

Also his amps, cabs, and equipment have changed. So all that combined has had an effect on the evolution of his tone.

This site actually has a good overview of Treys different Docs linked on thee home page. Ther is also another blog on the web dedicated to treys tone. Google it.  
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 01, 2010, 12:31:41 PM
Here:
http://dogoneblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/the-evolution-of-treys-tone-part-i/
2parts, read it, know it, love it!
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: YouEnjoyMyReba on January 01, 2010, 12:57:28 PM
Thanks picture of nectar!
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: YouEnjoyMyReba on January 02, 2010, 04:28:43 PM
part 2

http://dogoneblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/10/the-evolution-of-treys-tone-part-ii/
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: YouEnjoyMyReba on January 02, 2010, 04:49:35 PM
Oops, i might should have posted that in the audio/video forum.. sorry!
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: deadbearbobby on January 13, 2010, 04:45:53 PM
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on January 01, 2010, 12:29:03 PM
First, there is more then one Green Doc. At least three, because another guy has one and posted pics on PT, Sneeds, and the one Trey has been using. Paul has built 90+ Docs, so there's prolly more then 3 Green ones.  I read somwhere that the Green Doc Trey has been playing is actually Page's But that is unconfirmed. I have also heard Trey has 10 Docs...

Second, Treys original Doc was a flame Maple top with Paduak Sides, back, and neck. It actually had a single coil pick up in the mid position between the two humbuckers.

His current Doc is all Koa, it is the second of two Koa's he's played regularly on stage. You can tell them apart by the neck inlay. And the green one is Maple. The differnce in woods is the fundemental diffference in tone from fall 97, combined wih his Amp selection. I believe Clifford Ball was the end of the blonde Maple, but 97-98 you would see it on stage as his backup.

Also his amps, cabs, and equipment have changed. So all that combined has had an effect on the evolution of his tone.

This site actually has a good overview of Treys different Docs linked on thee home page. Ther is also another blog on the web dedicated to treys tone. Google it.  

actually, trey's first languedoc was a spruce top with flamed maple sides and i believe either a flame maple back or a walnut back. the paduak was his second. the first languedoc had only 2 knobs and a three way pu selector. the paduak had 3 knobs a threeway and a a mini switch. neil young is seen playing the maple/paduak at farm aid when he plays down by the river with phish. trey let him use his back up guitar.
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 13, 2010, 05:13:09 PM
You are right, I forgot about the first Doc. But it was Flame Maple Top and Spruce back and sides.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: deadbearbobby on January 14, 2010, 03:15:12 PM
Quote from: picture_of_nectar on January 13, 2010, 05:13:09 PM
You are right, I forgot about the first Doc. But it was Flame Maple Top and Spruce back and sides.
Cheers.


:) actually it was a spruce top and maple back and sides. here is a link to the picture:

http://www.morrisonhotelgallery.com/images/medium/Catherine%20McGann%20Copyright%202009%2038.JPG

the photo is from 94 i believe, i think this was treys backup at the time.

Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 15, 2010, 03:19:28 PM
Quoteactually it was a spruce top and maple back and sides. here is a link to the picture:

This is whats posted here in the Trey's Rig section on his 'Docs.

QuoteTrey's guitars include:

1. "Old Reliable," Trey's first custom electric guitar. This blonde beauty was built in late1987 for Trey when he told Paul that he wanted a fatter sound. Paul built it from a combination of spruce and maple, with 2 humbuckers and a single coil in the middle. The back and sides are spruce and the top is maple. This became Trey's primary guitar until his next one was built in 1992. When Paul began to build Trey's second guitar, he removed the single coil from the middle, and covered up the hole with plastic. Photos from 1992 show Trey using the spruce guitar with the plastic pickup cover, indicating that construction had begun on #2. When #2 was complete, Old Reliable became his backup guitar.
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: deadbearbobby on January 15, 2010, 03:38:46 PM
yes however paul states, and the picture backs, that treys first guitar was built of maple with a spruce top. spruce is not durable enough to build a full body out of. im not trying to be difficult by any means. there is a lot of misinformation out there. i will drop the subject though.  :) sorry
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: Poster on January 15, 2010, 03:40:37 PM
no need to apologize man.

hmm, ill dig around and see what else I can find out.

how about one of you guys just email Paul?

hes super nice to us strangedesigners.
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 16, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
wikipedia says Spruce and Walnut... :-\
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: deadbearbobby on January 16, 2010, 02:47:41 PM
I will email paul and ask him, i'l post the response too
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 16, 2010, 03:19:33 PM
Be interesting to see if you get a reply. I've emailed Paul 3 times asking if I could put half down on a G4 and never got a reply. Kinda turned me off from trying to buy a guitar from him. I can't imagine he gets hundreds of emails asking to buy one of his expensive guitars. Seems like the least he could do is send reply of some sort....if he's to busy to take on more customers then fine...but ignoring your potential customers is just bad business. I dunno maybe you gotta send in a demo tape and audition to get on the waiting list... ::)
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: Walker done done on January 18, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
That's surprising to hear PON, every time I've emailed Paul he's been very gracious at not only getting back to me but also being quite detailed in response to my questions. 
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: Poster on January 18, 2010, 11:45:34 AM
Paul is the man.

He is also, the only one up there.

Its more likely hes been sick, out of town, of backed up on orders.

Now Bradshaw, thats a dick that will just watch the phone ring.

Always give Languedoc the benefit of the doubt.
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 18, 2010, 01:56:44 PM
I will. I'm gunna send him another email about a G4. I can afford the deposit and sould be able to save the rest by next year :)
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: cactuskeeb on January 18, 2010, 03:01:09 PM
sneed
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: Poster on January 18, 2010, 03:26:38 PM
+1  :D
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 18, 2010, 04:07:09 PM
wait where's the middle finger smiley?

please don't compare me to that douchebag. That's a serious dig...and i find it pretty offensive.

1. I'm not a crackhead
2. I don't write crappy songs and pretend they are good
3. I don't promote myself on Phantasytour or youtube
4. My mommy won't be paying for my Doc' when I get it
5. I would never sell a fucking Languedoc to a pawn shop
6. I am not a douchebag

fuck you very much.

picture_of_nectar leaves this forum feeling shat on
.
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: Poster on January 18, 2010, 04:38:09 PM
Just kiddin around mang. Take a chill pill. The G4 is kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiller! Just dont order the Christmas Green One.  :D

I dont know much about Sneed. Read some things. Saw that terrible video for "who am I" or whatever and I tapped out half way through.

Iam sure he lurks around here. No doubt about it. Ive seen him on other gear forums, he usually calls himself "Sneed" or "JacksonSneed"

So hes a crackhead huh? How do you know that? I read somewhere some guy met him and he seemed blowed up on some powder or something.

Funny you mentioned that first lol.

I just understand how people like Sneed keep a band together and get booking? He isnt exactly "a guitar player" or a "Talent"...

But Sneed is a running Joke about everywhere now!
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: picture_of_nectar on January 18, 2010, 05:09:21 PM
crackhead--->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB77YsBatYE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB77YsBatYE)
Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: fluffhead4020 on January 19, 2010, 09:39:45 PM
Haha!  Comment on youtube on that sneed video:

"Jackson Sneed is one of the biggest assholes I've ever encountered in many, many years of seeing live music. Talked to him after a show in Atlanta, and he was zonked out of his mind on pills, and actually dry heaved twice during our 5 minute conversation. After the second near vomit, he pulled out an Altoids case with some cocaine in it and offered me a hit. What a complete mess of a human being. The thing I remember most was him slurring to me, "My mom bought me this guitar. It's like Trey's!" "

mmm.. damn funny.

Title: Re: Umm Trey playin the Jackson sneed 'doc on New Years??
Post by: Poster on January 19, 2010, 10:08:28 PM
picture, are you sure you want to pay for a g4? i thought you said youd never play a show with one?