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Started by kneight, July 21, 2009, 10:52:44 PM

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what is the best way to get more sustain on a shitty guitar

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kneight


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#1
ts9+compressor

but pedals wont make a shitty axe sound better.

I'm not sure I understand the difference bettween an effect and a pedal? arn't pedals effects? or are you talking some kind of digital effects processor?
Guitars: Paul Languedoc, Matt Atringer, David Myka, Ron Thorn

Amps: '65 Princeton Reverb, Clark '59 Bassman clone

Walker done done

#2
what he ^^^^ said.

And you could always go out & buy a hollowbody guitar.....I've got sustain that'll last a week if I want it to!
Guitars: Resurrection Phishy Hollowbody (koa top/back, cedar sides, Schaller Golden 50 pups, 2 series/single coil/parallel switches), Gibson SG Faded, Dean Evo, Fender Tele, Ovation Acoustic, Fender Acoustic

Signal Path: Garmopat-modded Vox V847 wah > Emma Discumbobulator > TS808 silver > TS9 silver > Ross Compressor (grey) > Alesis Microverb (reverb) > Mesa Boogie Mark III with custom 2x12 AO cabinet (speakers: Tone Tubby & Emminence Commonwealth).

Loop 1: Whammy II > Nova Delay
Loop 2: Alesis Microverb (reverse) > Ibanez DM2000 > CAE Super Trem > Black Cat Vibe
Loop 3 Boomerang+
Tuner: Boss TU-3

Effects not in use:  Voce Spin II (leslie sim), Boss DD6, Digitech RPM-1 (leslie sim), Analogman Orange Squeeze, Keeley 4knob Comp, Ernie Ball Volume Pedal, Super Hard On (boost), Ibanez AW7 (autowah), Denelectro French Fries (autowah) - If interested in any of these PM me.  Always willing to deal.

Stiles12

I dont use a hollow body guitar or a comp and I still get a lot of sustain... Make sure your amp is up, even if that means you have to lower it with a Tube box or Hot plate or any other variation of a Attenuator. this will make a huge difference in your sound and especially your sustain. Most very good guitar players max their amp out, that is how it is designed to be played, it isnt meant to be played at 4.

Comps will work, they are really annoying though especially through a long chain.

What are you using, what amps what "pedals/effects" what guitar? it will be much easier to help with this info
Guitars- Parker Fly Mojo, McInturff Standard, gibson 446.
effect and amp chain- Ts9 silver (X2), Rmc-3, (To Rack) Groove Tube Trio> BBE Compressor> GCX Audio Switcher> Whammy II> Boomerang> D-Two> Dm-2000> Tc electronics M-one XL> VHT 2:90:2
SPL Transducer

raisingfreen

I second Stiles opinion here,
Comps have their purpose, however turning up your amp and getting a good clean signal does a lot. I think sometimes sustain and feedback get confused as well. If you turn your amp up and play near your amp you can get a lot of sustain, is it actually sustain though? Obviously a hollow-body may appear to get more "sustain" as the guitar itself is a sound chamber. I imagine the various woods come into play as far as sustain as well. I love how in any ad you see for a used guitar the sellers frequently add "this guitar sustains for days". Really? That is some serious BS. I can get a feedback loop for quite a bit, so long as I can stand the frequencies it starts generate as well as the noise levels increasing. But again is this actually sustain? I bet good sustain could be measured with no amp hooked up to a guitar at all. Just play it unplugged and see how it vibrates/resonates as well as how long the notes last.

AO Guitars - Venus Hollow Rim w/Wolftone Dr. Vintage Humbuckers
Signal: Tuner>MXR Dist+>Ross Comp>RV-3>Alesis Nano>Silverface Vibrolux

cactuskeeb

#5
^^^Awesome theory that holds true in practice as well...
Go play a hollow-body with no center block unplugged and hear how it sings like an expensive acoustic with built in reverb effects from the 9th fret up.

EDIT: It has to be made of exotic hardwood(s) (e.g., cocobolo, spruce, koa, ...).


HunSanity

stiles thanks for the tip im gonna give it a try and turn my amps all the way up (and turn the screamers down)tonight and see what the diff sounds like.

my neighbor mister Wu is gonna be jamming to the coventry soundcheck scale practice tonight. HAHAHA