Wah AFTER O.D.

[Happyorange27]

Yep I mod all my wah pedals that way.

[webephishin]

how much does something like that run ya?

[Happyorange27]

A couple dollars if you already have a solder iron. Just buy the correct resistors. You want to focus on the input resistor and the mid and bass resistor. I can mod it for you if you are clueless. 

[webephishin]

My friend is putting together an envelope filter right now so im sure he could help me with it.  I honestly wouldnt have any idea of how to do it.  but it'd be cool to actually mod it so those high's rn't so piercing....do you have a link of some sort that demonstrates how to mod it?

[Happyorange27]

You can buy these from my good friend here. I designed this website.

http://dandyjob.com/cms.php?id_cms=7

There are plenty of other sites to research however. Google it:)

[Happyorange27]

Ok I've experimented once again so now I will change my stance on the subject and agree with the gang (Wah before OD).  I decided to hook up a spare 500k pot in place of the typical 33K vocal resistor (sometimes referred to as the Q resistor).  As you may know I have messed with that resistor plenty in the past and I thought I really liked the higher values.  So I've had my vocal value around 100K lately and what that does is narrows the Q.  So it basically resonates the band of frequencies and the higher the resistor value, the tighter squeeze you have on just a couple of notes.  The result is not very smooth transitions, and I especially mean when playing in front of the OD while on.  So that's why I didn't like wah before OD.  It almost sounds like a digital sweep of quantized segments.

So with this pot hooked up I could play with all values from 0 to 500K easily.  The result is I really like the stock values around 33K or so. You are basically sweeping a good full octave of notes and not just a couple.  Does this make sense?  Either you sweep a nice wide smooth mound of notes or you sweep a skinny tall tower of just a few notes on the bell curve.  That's the Q.  Low and wide vs. High and skinny.

I encourage people to get their hands dirty and try this or any other thing you are not satisfied with in you tone and find out why and how you can get it better.  It's probably not a bad idea to just have this Q pot mounted permanently like many Q pedals are sold now a days.  Because the tight Q does sounds very 70's porno when playing clean.

I suppose I should post a sound clip to show you what this sounds like.  I shall.

[Heady Jam Fan]

Looks like you had an interesting adventure! I used a GCB95 for years and sometimes didn't like the bright top end or dull bottom, so I tried the 535Q and couldn't even get a sound as good as the GCB! I figured the range would be similar, but I could widen the Q.

I ended up getting a Budwah and it is very vocal, a wide enough Q not to sound thin or shrill, but thin enough to have an effect. The range is shorter though, more in the midrange, avoiding the biting top end and most of the dull bottom end, but I would tighten that even more if I new what I was doing.

I have to admit though, I go through phases when I really enjoy wah, but most of the time, including lately, it sits there taking up much more space than it deserves

[Happyorange27]

Yep I go through the same phases.  Sometimes it inspires...sometimes it blows.

[manicstarseed]

....  Because the tight Q does sounds very 70's porno when playing clean....

Interesting. I think  I  have been using my Q-tron to get that vibe...the Starkey and Hutch-isms is what  I call em. I can see where a Wha  can create a sweep that is not necessarily tied to my strum... very smooth funk.