Boss Rc-2 Loop

gratephulphish123 · December 17, 2007, 03:14:55 PM

does anyone else have this pedal, it's driving me nuts. whenever i play alone my timing is really good on it, but recently when i jam with my drummer the loop will not just go out of time but seemingly change the strumming pattern of what i just played. what the hell?!?!

Poster · December 17, 2007, 06:23:53 PM

that thing blows. ebay it and get a boomerang +

gratephulphish123 · December 17, 2007, 08:42:33 PM

boomerangs not quite in my price range, i agree that it blows. it blows SO BAD, i just spent a full hour trying to loop franklins tower, i got a perfect loop maybe 6 times. i've heard about midi equipment that will auto synch the loop with drums, what is this equipment and how do i get it!

Poster · December 17, 2007, 08:47:32 PM

um that shit sucks too man sorry. any midi anything thats supposed to sync is gonna have some latency issues any make timing anything a bitch or at the least its gonna have cartoon sound quality and they are much more expensive that just get a rang for 300 off ebay

gratephulphish123 · December 17, 2007, 08:49:12 PM

whys the boomerang so good, it still requires exact timing with the pedal doesnt it? i just miserably fail at getting exact timing

Poster · December 17, 2007, 08:53:50 PM

its better because the buttons are much easier to use, you dont have to bend over to turn up or down the volume, and it has a reverse button to do all the fun first tube stuff. its a tone sucker though so youve gotta use a true bypass looper with it.

gratephulphish123 · December 17, 2007, 08:58:40 PM

boss r 20 also doesnt require you to bend over (which drives me nuts) to delete loops and suchforth, for a bit cheaper. sorry if it seems i'm being a big jew, i have very little money and am looking for a loop pedal that just doesnt require me to have perfect timing to loop chord progressions

i think it'd be cheaper to buy a rythm player at this stage, but my old rythm player is sitting out till he's good enough to play on the rest of the bands level and i dont wanna completely stop in his absence

Poster · December 17, 2007, 09:02:54 PM

well learning how to time loops isnt easy. i spent years getting the hang of my rang, and at this point i can bring it and an my acoustic electric anywhere and just rock the fuck out. my issue with the rc20 is that its good for keyboards and vocals and sampling tv shows for weird jamming live but it sucks compared to my rang for doing crazy guitar trickery. all loopers demand you have decent timing and if not, the reflexes to up latch your stacking on the fly to fix errors you make. but i discovered when i finally got it down i didnt want to use it so much because i was relying on it too much... same thing with the digitech whammy, ive gotten rid of two because ill use it too fucking much.

either way the switches on the rc20 are mickey mouse shit, no way to depend on depressing those clunky chinese switches in time with anybody but yourself. even the giant retarded ones they make with the 20 plastic switches suck balls. try the digitech jam man thats what keller williams uses for his basses.

gratephulphish123 · December 17, 2007, 09:08:25 PM

if you do reccomend the rang so highly... theres one on ebay for $200, i might wait and see if i cant just improve my timing. i dont wanna spend a bunch of money to learn that the problem is me

Poster · December 17, 2007, 09:08:25 PM

Quote from: \"gratephulphish123\"but my old rythm player is sitting out till he's good enough to play on the rest of the bands level and i dont wanna completely stop in his absence

dude, you should just get the guy stoned, and jam with him for a couple of days and force him to progress. setup a place to play and just go at it for like 14 hours straight if he gets sick of it or lazy kick him out, doing rhythm in a jam band shouldn't be too hard :wink:

Poster · December 17, 2007, 09:10:11 PM

well i think about it like this... when i had a shitty yamaha to learn how to play guitar with there became a point when the guitar held me back. that rc20 is a POS IMO so i would argue better looper=more opportunity to master the timing issues

gratephulphish123 · December 17, 2007, 09:14:01 PM

you reason a good game, time to sell some stuff on ebay, dont quit expect the rang to fit on my pedal board but... :lol: heres for hoping

Poster · December 17, 2007, 09:16:26 PM

i got this great cheap metal briefcase for mine off ebay for like 30 bucks. its like something from bladerunner and keeps her shiny

make sure to use it in the effects loop and you should be good. remember to get a true bypass looper or it will suck your tone

Walker done done · December 18, 2007, 12:28:07 AM

Quote from: \"posternutbag\"dude, you should just get the guy stoned, and jam with him for a couple of days and force him to progress. setup a place to play and just go at it for like 14 hours straight

This is THE BEST advice and really the only worthy post on this thread that I've seen yet, with apologies to all others.

Do your friend a favor. Take a weekend. Saturday with him - Sunday with the band. Or vice-versa, fuck conventionalism.

Stiles12 · December 19, 2007, 11:46:19 PM

Question, is the fs5u that trey has labeled once used for his boomerang to do that heavy things harmonic, the one the rythmically runs throughout the main sections of the song?
There is not an input for a tap tempo pedal like he has built in if that is how he does that. Who moded that thing?