Screamer Porn

[Heady Jam Fan]

[IamWILSON]

Heady, I know you like your cleaner one first and dirty second, but I encourage you to flip them around and try the other way.  Also max out the volume with both ts-9's and use the compressor to control the volume.  Your shit will scream when you have them both on.  Play the YEM note for 6 minutes!  Your neighbors will thank me.   NOT!

[Heady Jam Fan]

I'll give it a try Wilson, but I have tried both of those things with no avail; IIRC, even with the comp, I got too much volume with the dirty TS's volume maxed (I keep it at 12 o'clock, it got bumped before I took the pic), and I always get a muddy, blanketed sound anytime I but a dirtier drive (TS or other) before a cleaner one.

Either way, I can hold a note until I fall asleep

PS - I looked at some more pics of Trey's Mesa, and I have been running the main volume lower, the master higher and the lead volume higher. I get a more aggressive lead tone - I kinda miss the super smooth, cleaner one I had before, more of a fusion kinda thing, but I can't go back from the balls-out rock tone I am getting now. And the Red Fang won out over the EVM12L in the end.

[Happyorange27]

Nice Porn!
I like dirty in front as well but I keep the volumes under 12 oclock because i like relatively unitary volume in all combinations.  That's because my compressor is only at 10 oclock on compression thus i still have some dynamics in my playing, not squashville.  Everybody's combination of gear is going to react differently.

[Heady Jam Fan]

Very true, they react differently. I keep my TS's set the same whether or not I have the compressors sustain set at 9 or 12. I tried the dirtier one first again, given I was playing quietly because one roommate is a bit hung over and the other is studying, but I still prefer the dirtier one second.

The interesting thing is there are significant differences between those two vintage TS9's. The '83 is tighter and smoother while the '82 is a bit looser and crunchier or grittier. I've been using the '82 2nd as my dirtier TS.

[sour d]

Heady, I know you like your cleaner one first and dirty second, but I encourage you to flip them around and try the other way.  Also max out the volume with both ts-9's and use the compressor to control the volume.  Your shit will scream when you have them both on.  Play the YEM note for 6 minutes!  Your neighbors will thank me.   NOT!

Trey puts them in this order with the dirty driving the clean. The order on the floor is decieving but if you follow the cables.
http://www.mikepiera.com/phish/phish062004.htm

[Heady Jam Fan]

Here is a really good pic of Trey's rig:


But I just can't get it to sound as good that way. I'll try it again at volume, but never did it for me with a TS or other dirt pedals either.

[cactuskeeb]

The above photo is hideous in comparison to your setup. I like the hardwood flooring -- no doubt, it adds a woodiness to your tone one would not receive were one to place the pedalboard on carpet or concrete.

[Heady Jam Fan]

Lol, thanks man - I never expected my rig make Trey's look hideous

[cactuskeeb]

Lol, thanks man - I never expected my rig make Trey's look hideous

In all honesty, I think you went into the construction of your setup with a certain artistic flair. I really do like the the purple phone-cord exiting the purple-base wah. I often tell people the story of when, years ago, I played a blues solo a half step down from the rest of the band. Ultimately, I received amazing head that night and I attribute that experience simply to the fact that I was playing a beautiful, honey-burst Les Paul. To summarize: the appeal of one's guitar playing is highly subjective and contingent, to a certain extent, on appearance.

[Heady Jam Fan]

Lol, thanks man - I never expected my rig make Trey's look hideous

In all honesty, I think you went into the construction of your setup with a certain artistic flair. I really do like the the purple phone-cord exiting the purple-base wah. I often tell people the story of when, years ago, I played a blues solo a half step down from the rest of the band. Ultimately, I received amazing head that night and I attribute that experience simply to the fact that I was playing a beautiful, honey-burst Les Paul. To summarize: the appeal of one's guitar playing is highly subjective and contingent, to a certain extent, on appearance.

Interesting... the funny part is I am not really interested in the aesthetics of my rig, just how it sounds and how easy it is for me to navigate (ie get from clean to soaring leads and all in between). I got that Lava Coil used at a good price, I heard the old budwah's sound better, so that is why I have a purple one.  Though I guess I do appreciate it when people think my rig looks cool.

Thanks man

[cactuskeeb]

Lol, thanks man - I never expected my rig make Trey's look hideous

In all honesty, I think you went into the construction of your setup with a certain artistic flair. I really do like the the purple phone-cord exiting the purple-base wah. I often tell people the story of when, years ago, I played a blues solo a half step down from the rest of the band. Ultimately, I received amazing head that night and I attribute that experience simply to the fact that I was playing a beautiful, honey-burst Les Paul. To summarize: the appeal of one's guitar playing is highly subjective and contingent, to a certain extent, on appearance.

Interesting... the funny part is I am not really interested in the aesthetics of my rig, just how it sounds and how easy it is for me to navigate (ie get from clean to soaring leads and all in between). I got that Lava Coil used at a good price, I heard the old budwah's sound better, so that is why I have a purple one.  Though I guess I do appreciate it when people think my rig looks cool.

Thanks man

In listening to your recordings, I can't help but notice a lot of noise. Do you get that kind of background noise when plugging straight into your amp? Listen/view The Song Remains the Same on blu-ray. There's only but so many floor effects used in that performance (wah, overdrive). The rest is engineered after the fact (reverb, delay, wide stereo imaging, etc.). Try recording with a cranked amp and, if needed, a wah and/or one or two overdrive pedals. Also, plug your amp, effects, mic-preamps, etc, into a single power strip

[Heady Jam Fan]

Thanks man, I haven't done too much recording lately. I haven't had as much noise lately either - it seems like when the person who lives below me has their home stereo on, I get a lot more (their home stereo is right below my rig).

I run my rig off of a Tripplite Voltage Regulator, plugging in both my amp and pedaboard, then I run my pedals off the Furman Board. There is definitely less noise straight in or with no effects on, and probably lower in the ratio if the amp is louder. Come to think of it, I don't usually plug the interface or computer into the same power source - and the computer increases noise if it is too close to my rig (even my cell phone will, but negligibly).

I would definitely love less noise, but I love using a TS9 and comp (I usually just have those two on). I thought about shielding the guitar or trying other pickups, but my rig has gotten quieter since then. I used to run my treble really high on Fender amps and roll my tone know way off - I think that makes the noise more noticeable as well.

[cactuskeeb]

A voltage regulator, really? If all your devices are drawing a certain current, how is that necessary? Are you trying to regulate the current to your amp?

[Heady Jam Fan]

A voltage regulator, really? If all your devices are drawing a certain current, how is that necessary? Are you trying to regulate the current to your amp?

Just tells me f the voltage strays significantly from 120v or if there are issues with the ground. I don't have control over it, but I guess it helps stay in the correct range. Otherwise, it is a surge protector on steroids.