Cool writeup on Trey's Languedocs

[picture_of_nectar]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yVeQHXjSIOoJbOw-cUz0WjD9x8b3L4qB-TnL6HVks7E/preview?sle=true&pli=1

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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yVeQHXjSIOoJbOw-cUz0WjD9x8b3L4qB-TnL6HVks7E/preview?sle=true&pli=1

Spoke on TGP with the person who was setting the time guitars in that pic a few years ago, had no idea it was Paul. I'd rather have the amp collection!

[Down_With_Sco]

To be fair and clear.

I made this document and those two pictures with the Time guitars are meant to show just the guitars. I do not know who owns those.... I only have an idea who built them.

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To be fair and clear.

I made this document and those two pictures with the Time guitars are meant to show just the guitars. I do not know who owns those.... I only have an idea who built them.

Ah nevermind! Thanks for the clarification. That dude has quite the collection.

[picture_of_nectar]

Nice work Down_W_Sco

[cactuskeeb]

Since we're talking about writeups on trey's languedoc, I thought I'd share an article I photocopied years ago at the library.  I forget which guitar mag (the hardcopy isn't near me at the moment) but the series is called "setups of the stars" and goes into extreme detail regarding action, pickup height, fretboard radius, etc (apparently the person working for the mag who wrote the piece travels to shows and takes these precise measurements himself).  I'll type it all out asap.  For now, I can tell you that it states Trey's action is set medium low, which string height of the treble strings measuring 3.5 64ths at the 12th fret (i.e., the distance between the top of the 12th fret and the string is 3.5 64ths) and 4.5 64ths at the 12th for the bass strings.  If you don't have a ruler that displays 64ths and 32nds, you should.  Very cheap and easy to come by.  Can't recall off the top of my head (again, I will type out the full article soon) pickup height.  The most interesting thing was the 9" fretboard radius.  A strat is typically 9.5" (think Jimi Hendrix's strat for a reference) and a gibson runs 12" to 14" (the latter being the most common and is what Languedoc does for all his guitars nowadays).  The article explains that this allows "cleaner bends over the low action."  I really want to try this on my les paul but at least AO says it would involve replacing the fretboard and a bunch of other expensive things.
 

[WarrenTrey1]

Hey cactus. Did you ever retype this article.

[tsbot]

Man so his guitars are 9" radius?  How does that all work?  I have an artinger hollow with a 12" but the neck is not big or chunky, my fender 9.5" had a bigger neck - I always thought the bigger the radius the chunkier the neck?  Also how can you measure a guitar radius?

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The Radius is just how flat the fretboard is. On my H2T it's a 20" so it's very flat, and actually quite comfortable. Also, you can use a radius gauge on the saddles of some guitars to match the fretboard. The Wilkinson on my H2T has those strat style saddles so it's possible but on a tune o matic they're automatically set for that radius. Some say a flatter radius is harder to play lead with, but I never notice and having grown up playing Gibson guitars that's where I'm most comfortable. When I play my girlfriend's strat you can really feel the difference when playing chords.

[Helping Friendly]

I thought Languedocs came stock with a 16" radius? I guess Trey likes Paul to make his 9" though? Good info if correct

[tsbot]

All of PL's are 14" stock - be really interesting to see what Trey's really are - and the foam keeps getting thicker!

[LooksLikeDave]

Since we're talking about writeups on trey's languedoc, I thought I'd share an article I photocopied years ago at the library.  I forget which guitar mag (the hardcopy isn't near me at the moment) but the series is called "setups of the stars" and goes into extreme detail regarding action, pickup height, fretboard radius, etc (apparently the person working for the mag who wrote the piece travels to shows and takes these precise measurements himself).  I'll type it all out asap.  For now, I can tell you that it states Trey's action is set medium low, which string height of the treble strings measuring 3.5 64ths at the 12th fret (i.e., the distance between the top of the 12th fret and the string is 3.5 64ths) and 4.5 64ths at the 12th for the bass strings.  If you don't have a ruler that displays 64ths and 32nds, you should.  Very cheap and easy to come by.  Can't recall off the top of my head (again, I will type out the full article soon) pickup height.  The most interesting thing was the 9" fretboard radius.  A strat is typically 9.5" (think Jimi Hendrix's strat for a reference) and a gibson runs 12" to 14" (the latter being the most common and is what Languedoc does for all his guitars nowadays).  The article explains that this allows "cleaner bends over the low action."  I really want to try this on my les paul but at least AO says it would involve replacing the fretboard and a bunch of other expensive things.
 

This had me intrigued. So I tracked down what mag it was from and bought it off Amazon.  I took pics of the article (too lazy to type it out) pretty interesting though. The 9" radius is weird. I wonder if Trey requests that radius? Paul may prefer 14"?

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[LooksLikeDave]

again..

[LooksLikeDave]

I give up..

Paste in between the IMG's right?

[LooksLikeDave]

heres the link to my PB page. http://s44.photobucket.com/user/caspianjam/media/photo1_zpsaff50fe8.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0